On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 15:01 -0500, xiphmont@xxxxxxxx wrote: > > My gods. Do not pass start. Do not collect $200. Hint, see > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=230006 > > > > and come back when you understand the implications. Thanks. > > You're asking the world to upgrade to benefit your pet project or be ^^^ How nice. > left behind. The chances of that working out are not high. No, we're just fixing past design mistakes to make the Linux desktop be true multi-user (again). In some circles it's called progress; looking forward and doing new exciting things. If such things happen to be useful, hey, more power to the Linux desktop. > > It's because I live in this century and don't use OSS myself. > > And yet you feel justified to dismiss it. I don't use the desktop > much myself, so it must be unimportant. I'm not dismissing OSS; there are, at least two mechanisms to support it; let me repeat - LD_PRELOAD (widely used by LTSP) - emulation devices Let me repeat again: both are ugly as hell because OSS is ugly as hell. Whether we as a distro want to keep compat for these around in the *default* install is a separate issue and up to the Fedora project at large. I don't really care and I'm sure people who have a better idea of our user base does. It could go in a compat-oss package for all I care. For the record we have other compat* packages that you need to use antiquated interfaces. > Replace OSS with ALSA; the point still stands and perhaps you can > identify more with it. No, it's fine, apps use libasound and there's a plug-in for Pulse. > Say 'ESD' in a room full of Linux users five years ago, and the first > thing anyone thought was 'Oh, it's that thing I have to kill so all my > sounds apps will work again'. If we repeat that mistake with PA, PA > will also become reviled. I don't understand this. OSS compat is possible through two mechanisms already. Plus I have a lot of faith in the PA developers not to screw up. > > Of course, we wouldn't enable such things by default because we don't > > have OSS apps in the default install. Perhaps enterprise distros that > > care about old crap would. > > Fine. Do we ship any ALSA apps? I think we might. No, it's fine, apps use libasound and there's a plug-in for Pulse. David -- Fedora-desktop-list mailing list Fedora-desktop-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-desktop-list
