I've added the entry to the GNOME HIG and closed the bug related, however now the f.d.o. spec needs to be updated. In the Desktop Entry Spec: http://freedesktop.org/Standards/desktop-entry-spec/0.9.4/ar01s04.html Below: Table 2. Standard Keys Reads: Name | Specific name of the application, for example "Mozilla". If you agree that the translation of the generated names is a bad thing, which I'm certain it is. I believe this should read something like: Name | Specific and generic name of the application, for example "Mozilla Web Browser". That might need to be elaborated on a bit though. Cheers, ~ Bryan On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 11:15 -0400, Bryan Clark wrote: > I made a bug over the weekend to remind myself to fix the HIG on > this. > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=144284 > > The F.D.O spec seems to suggest that Name is purely the proper name of > the application without the description of functionality included. We > should align on this issue. My recommendation is to format the Name > as "[Proper Name] [Description of Functionality]" and GenericName as > "[Description of Functionality]". When two applications exist with > the same "[Description of Functionality]" then the Name is used > instead. > > I can see the possibility of expecting the "[Proper Name] [Description > of Functionality]" format to be generated automatically via the way > the F.D.O. spec is now, however the code isn't there to support this > and I suspect issues (especially in regards to translation) will arise > if we try to generate the names automatically. > > ~ Bryan > > On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 10:01 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > We do need to fix this HIG vs. desktop entry spec issue. Historically > > what we've done for Red Hat is just put what we want in Name and ignore > > GenericName. > > > > Havoc > > > > Email message/mailbox attachment, "Forwarded message - Re: Gnome > > Icons, Gnome/KDE Menus need improvement" > > On Mon, 2004-06-14 at 10:01 -0400, Havoc Pennington wrote: > > > What are your thoughts on this > > > (response to bugzilla re: changing menu entries) > > > > > > Kaffeine Maintainer (Livna.org): > > > > > > ------- Additional Comment #1 From Ville Skyttä 2004-06-13 21:12 -- > > > > > > > I am not quite comfortable changing the menu entry because it is implementation > > > specific how the actual shown label is constructed. Moreover, we use > > > freedesktop.org .desktop files to provide the menu entries, and so the > > > canonical > > > specification to follow is the desktop entry specification, which says > > > Name is > > > the app_name, and I'd say GenericName would correspond to app_function. > > > http://freedesktop.org/Standards/desktop-entry-spec/0.9.4/ar01s04.html > > > > > > Until the ambiguities (and AFAICS even small conflicts) between the > > > GNOME HIG > > > and desktop entry specifications are clarified, and there is a clear > > > documented > > > way how to represent this information in .desktop files in Fedora stuff, > > > I do > > > not want to go into the business of changing things. What would make > > > sense to > > > me would be to construct the menu entry label like "Name GenericName" > > > from the > > > .desktop entry fields. That would result in a mess if Name already > > > contained > > > app_function. > > > > > > =============================================================================== > > >
