Thanks to pointers in this thread I managed to get rhythmbox running. It uses 25% CPU on my Epia-M10000... It is huge - both onscreen and in RAM. It takes about 3x the screen real estate that iTunes (which is too big) takes in reduced mode. Why would you want to replace xmms with a program like that? Did I say that it crashes? When it gets slim and fast then it might have a chance but for the moment this is alpha quality software. 0.02€ Tony Grant -- www.tgds.net Library management software toolkit