On Thu, 2004-04-22 at 16:50, jludwig wrote: > This would also be what I would like to see. For example, every time I > upgrade or load a system I get the "out of the box" firewall rules > without any other option. This is fine for average desktops and newbees, > but causes my extra configuration work. I don't think more installer options will happen - everyone is very in favor of kicking that stuff to firstboot or to config tools post-boot. If you want to avoid manually configuring systems, what you want is kickstart. For the firewall example specifically, there's no real reason firewalls on most systems should even _require_ configuration - we know what services are up, we should open those ports and close the other ports. On a desktop, that probably means everything is closed. If someone starts a service, the initscript or whatever can open the port. If you don't want a port open, stop the service. Yes, some services can serve both local and remote users. Let those two aspects be started and stopped separately. "[ ] Receive print jobs from this machine" "[ ] Receive print jobs from other machines" - if both are unchecked, no print daemon starts. But of course leave the config file, so if you really want some other firewall config, or are setting up a machine whose purpose is to be a firewall, rather than to be firewalled, you can create that config. And there might be a GUI for creating a custom firewall, covering common use-cases for that. Havoc