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> Today's Topics:
> 1. Re: Preventing spammers from infiltrating the Red Hat mailing
> lists (William M. Quarles)
> 2. Preventing spammers from infiltrating the Red Hat mailing
> lists (William M. Quarles)
> 3. need help (mukesh golla)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:52:03 -0400
> From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Preventing spammers from infiltrating the Red Hat mailing
> lists
> To: fedora-config-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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> David Cary Hart wrote:
>> On Wed, 2005-04-13 at 12:36 -0400, William M. Quarles wrote:
>>
>>
>>>If you would like to see the Red Hat newsgroup mirrors have encrypted
>>>e-mail addresses, please reply to this topic and discuss. If you are
>>>even more brave (important since some of these lists are high-volume and
>>>not everything gets read), please contact your list administrator
>>>directly at <listname-admin@xxxxxxxxxx>. If someone knows how to get
>>>the word out on the international lists or to their administrators
>>>(since I don't speak multiple tongues), please do so. If someone knows
>>>who to contact who can make all of the newsgroups have encrypted e-mail
>>>addresses going above all of the list administrators (maybe the person
>>>who decided to obfuscate them all on the web archive?) please contact
>>>him or her and let us know how to contact that person.
>>
>> The problem is spam not the lists nor list management.
> True but the list management could take on small step to protect all of
> us, so I don't see why they shouldn't do it, particularly when they have
> already taken a similar step on Red Hat website.
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 13:38:04 -0400
> From: "William M. Quarles" <walrus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Preventing spammers from infiltrating the Red Hat mailing
> lists
> To: fedora-config-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Hi all,
> I sent what I thought was a very important request to one of the Fedora
> lists which was quickly beaten down, and I did not receive anything back
> on subsequent replies. I would appreciate your help in making sure that
> the lists are safe for all of us. I'm actually going to the trouble of
> subscribing to nearly all of the Red Hat mailing lists just to get the
> word out.
> One thing that I have done recently was to search for my e-mail
> addresses on the Internet web pages to find all of the places that list
> them. Why bother doing this? Just like how Google has spiders that
> crawl the Internet to gather general information, spammers have spiders
> that crawl the Internet to gather e-mail addresses to spam people. I
> have contacted all of the websites who did not modify my e-mail
> addresses (mostly on mailing lists) in such that they cannot be
> collected. Red Hat has done at least one thing right in that they have
> modified everyone's e-mail address in their web archive, such that it
> reads something like <walrus bellsouth.net> for mine.
> However Red Hat has left one big gaping whole that the spam spiders can
> still crawl into. There is a complete active mirror of these lists as
> postable newsgroups kept on a service called Gmane <http://gmane.org>.
> I'm using Gmane to write this message to you now. It's a pretty
> sophisticated setup, has safeguards to prevent spam getting posted, and
> they use Spam Assassin to clean up stuff that still ends up on the list
> (except you have to filter it yourself on the newsgroup interface). The
> only problem is that spam spiders crawl the newsgroups to collect e-mail
> addresses.
> Gmane has a safeguard to prevent this, but it has to be turned on by the
> list administrator. Gmane can encrypt the e-mail addresses on the list
> such that any mail sent to them is routed through Gmane first, and then
> the sender must under go a challenge-response before the message gets
> routed to the actual recipient. Of all of the Red Hat lists I've only
> found two newsgroup mirrors that use address encryption:
> gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.java <fedora-java-list>, and
> gmane.redhat.taroon <taroon-beta-list>.
> If you would like to see the Red Hat newsgroup mirrors have encrypted
> e-mail addresses, please reply to this topic and discuss. If you are
> even more brave (important since some of these lists are high-volume and
> not everything gets read), please contact your list administrator
> directly at <listname-admin@xxxxxxxxxx>. If someone knows how to get
> the word out on the international lists or to their administrators
> (since I don't speak multiple tongues), please do so. If someone knows
> who to contact who can make all of the newsgroups have encrypted e-mail
> addresses going above all of the list administrators (maybe the person
> who decided to obfuscate them all on the web archive?) please contact
> him or her and let us know how to contact that person.
> Thanks so much,
> William
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 12:29:12 +0100 (BST)
> From: mukesh golla <mukkugolla007@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: need help
> To: fedora-config-list@xxxxxxxxxx
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