If we're ready for a change of identity then let's agree on what should be preserved (and what can be sacrificed). The infinity symbol seems very important to the project. If I'm correct, perhaps, encasing that in a circle (or a rounded square) may provide basis for further conceptualization. The use of basic shapes appear to be the trend in recent icon themes. In any case, its going to be both challenging and interesting changing the fedora- logo. Regards Onyeibo On Fri, 2018-10-05 at 06:49 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > Hi Onyeibo, > > It's the Fedora logo itself that has issues. The other logos I > mentioned were just something that had to be discussed in updating > our logo docs that brought up the topic of changing the Fedora logo. > > Cheers, > ~m > > On October 5, 2018 3:36:42 AM EDT, Onyeibo Oku < > onyeibo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I fail to appreciate the points in this discussion without visuals > > Can someone point me to he offending graphics? URLs please? > > > > Regards > > Onyeibo > > > > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 22:05 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote: > > > What do you think fellow, design team members? > > > > > > Full disclosure, I brought this up to Matthew yesterday when we > > > were > > > discussing the ticket on converting the logo guidelines to > > > asciidoc. > > > We realized they have to be updated with some of the new stuff > > > we've > > > been working on (Fedora IoT logo, Fedora CoreOS logo, etc). And > > > I > > > complained about how I wish I could update the logo too :-) > > > > > > I think a lot of us have struggled with the inability to do one > > > color > > > and the off-centeredness of the bubble. (And wouldn't an open > > > source > > > font be nice??) > > > > > > ~m > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my phone, not an iphone. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > > From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7@xxxxxxxxx> > > > Date: 10/4/18 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00) > > > To: council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Subject: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh > > > > > > On 10/4/18 5:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > > Our "freedom + infinity + voice" logo is awesome -- but it > > > > also has > > > some > > > > problems: > > > > > > > > * It doesn't work well at small sizes > > > > * It doesn't work at all in a single color > > > > * The "voice" bubble means it's hard to center visually in > > > > designs > > > > * The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font > > > > * I'm tired of explaining that it's not Facebook > > > > > > > > As much as I love our "classic" logo, I think it may be time > > > > for a > > > refresh. > > > > > > > > It's not just about problems -- as we're getting into Year 15, > > > > and > > > five > > > > years (!) of Fedora.next, our editions strategy is drifting > > > > away > > > from > > > > "Fedora + logical thing" (like "Fedora Server" or "Fedora > > > > Cloud") > > > into more > > > > unique brands like "Fedora CoreOS" or "Fedora Silverblue". As > > > > I > > > said at > > > > Flock, the important thing about Fedora to me is the _people_ > > > > — I'd > > > like > > > > "Fedora" to be more assocated with the project and the > > > > community > > > rather than > > > > our software artifacts. I'd love to have a logo which can work > > > > as a > > > > "community umbrella". > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > > > > This logic makes sense to me. I'm also open-minded to a 2018 > > > refresh. > > > There should probably be some level of engagement with the > > > Fedora > > > Design > > > Team on this too. > > > > > > It is too bad tattoos aren't as easy to update as Fedora. :) > > > > > > > > > design-team mailing list -- design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > > design-team-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Fedora Code of Conduct: > > > https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > > > List Guidelines: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > > List Archives: > > > > > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > design-team mailing list -- design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To unsubscribe send an email to > > design-team-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > > List Guidelines: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > > List Archives: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > _______________________________________________ > design-team mailing list -- design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to > design-team-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list -- design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to design-team-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
