Re: Considering a logo refresh

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I fail to appreciate the points in this discussion without visuals
Can someone point me to he offending graphics? URLs please?

Regards
Onyeibo

On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 22:05 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> What do you think fellow, design team members? 
> 
> Full disclosure, I brought this up to Matthew yesterday when we were
> discussing the ticket on converting the logo guidelines to asciidoc.
> We realized they have to be updated with some of the new stuff we've
> been working on (Fedora IoT logo, Fedora CoreOS logo, etc). And I
> complained about how I wish I could update the logo too :-)
> 
> I think a lot of us have struggled with the inability to do one color
> and the off-centeredness of the bubble. (And wouldn't an open source
> font be nice??)
> 
> ~m
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my phone, not an iphone.
> 
> -------- Original message --------
> From: "Justin W. Flory" <jflory7@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 10/4/18 5:45 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Design-team] Re: Considering a logo refresh
> 
> On 10/4/18 5:02 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Our "freedom + infinity + voice" logo is awesome -- but it also has
> some
> > problems:
> > 
> > * It doesn't work well at small sizes
> > * It doesn't work at all in a single color
> > * The "voice" bubble means it's hard to center visually in designs
> > * The Fedora wordmark is based on a non-open-source font
> > * I'm tired of explaining that it's not Facebook
> > 
> > As much as I love our "classic" logo, I think it may be time for a
> refresh.
> > 
> > It's not just about problems -- as we're getting into Year 15, and
> five
> > years (!) of Fedora.next, our editions strategy is drifting away
> from
> > "Fedora + logical thing" (like "Fedora Server" or "Fedora Cloud")
> into more
> > unique brands like "Fedora CoreOS" or "Fedora Silverblue". As I
> said at
> > Flock, the important thing about Fedora to me is the _people_ — I'd
> like
> > "Fedora" to be more assocated with the project and the community
> rather than
> > our software artifacts. I'd love to have a logo which can work as a
> > "community umbrella".
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> 
> This logic makes sense to me. I'm also open-minded to a 2018 refresh.
> There should probably be some level of engagement with the Fedora
> Design
> Team on this too.
> 
> It is too bad tattoos aren't as easy to update as Fedora. :)
> 
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