Can i get something to do? On Thu, Dec 19, 2013, at 01:00 PM, design-team-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > Send design-team mailing list submissions to > design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > design-team-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > You can reach the person managing the list at > design-team-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of design-team digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: About nuancier (S.Kemter) > 2. Re: About nuancier (Pierre-Yves Chibon) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 15:24:12 +0100 > From: "S.Kemter" <sirko.kemter@xxxxxxxxx> > To: Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: About nuancier > Message-ID: > <CAKBdXuc42uqZxfig1E3a02mUri-JHuc=DTkkDbgywh34Qnd_QA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > > 2013/12/18 Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 02:33:17PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > 2013/12/18 Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 01:40:44PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote: > > > > First of all, I am still not convinced to get the pressure > > back to > > > have an > > > > FAS account for an submission, we agreed for F19 that that > > would be > > > not > > > > necessary but we had no way arround as you need one for the > > wiki. > > > So there > > > > was only two who used the way to send me something and I > > submitted > > > it to > > > > the wiki. > > > > > > Well you can still submit the file in the name of someone else. > > > > > > yeah but you are not the author, so how shall I notice that then? > > > > So we actually want to consider the case where: > > * Joe takes a pictures and puts it on flicker under CC-BY-SA > > * Jane sees the picture and likes it a lot > > * Jane wants to submit it to nuancier > > * Jane does not want to create a FAS account > > * Jane asks Dave to upload the picture taken by Joe for her > > > > ?? > > > > wowowow, just make it simple possible to submit without FAS account. For > F19 we had already the case that somebody submitted the work of somebody > else with another license. You always question me, why I have to > disqualify > if its not correct licensed eg but in this case the author changed the > license after an conversation. > > > > > Who should get the badge then? Joe, who took the picture? Jane, who saw and > > liked the picture and thought it would make a good wallpaper for Fedora? > > Dave > > who agreed with Jane and actually did the work? > > > > first of all, no FAS account no page at badges.fp.o or? But the question > was already raised during the last submission period as we had the case. > I > raised already the question remember and we had an discussion about on > IRC > "to crawl the internet for good pictures, is also considered valuable > contribution and a badge should be awarded" not me who said that! > > > > > And what if Jane gave the idea to Johan that knew someone in the Fedora > > community and thus asked Gustave who could submit the artwork and Gustave > > too > > busy told Johan that Dave should be able to? > > > > I mean, we can probably make it as complex as we want, but at the end I > > think > > the simpler the better: > > * author: the person that made the artwork > > * submiter: the person that submitted the artwork > > > > > > Note:: To submit atm one still has to be CLA+1 (same restriction as for > > voting) > > > > for submission that was never asked for, just for the voting > > > > > > > for the rules: > > > > * comfortaa is bad to read > > > > > > I used it because it was on the mockups, I am fine with using the > > > standard > > > fonts. > > > > > > its fine for headlines, but not for content > > > > Fixed > > > > > > * it's unclear that the name for the submission is meant with > > that > > > > > > Would 'Title' be better? (see previous discussion with Kirk) > > > > > > yes > > > > Fixed > > > > > > * tried to upload a file with the name "test" took endless > > long and > > > > failed, can we rename them with "name-by-author-size.*" that is > > > what has > > > > do be done anyway > > > > > > See above. > > > Otherwise, I can think of 2 options: > > > 1) we can split the submission onto two pages but I don't think that > > > this is nice. > > > 2) I add a 'test submission' button that checks if the title is > > unique > > > and > > > inform the user if it is not. > > > > > > the renaming would be easier, somebody might have submitted a file > > named > > > "flower" but definitly not flower-by-name.* > > > > Then the titles becomes "Unicorn rocks pandas-by-mizmo"? And we display it > > as > > such? > > > > isnt there a difference between file name and name? > > > > > > > * the upload takes way to long, fear we have to do the test > > after > > > the > > > > upload otherwise, somebody with a lot of submissions will > > break up > > > after a > > > > few > > > > > > See above. > > > The file is uploaded as part of the form, so I cannot check before > > if > > > the data > > > submitted is valid or not. > > > > > > I think the check of sizes take that long, not of the other data. I > > think > > > the split of the submission would be nicer, when its done the right > > way > > > > > > > as the question for the licenses already came up > > > > > > > > CC0 > > > > CC-BY > > > > CC-BY-SA > > > > DSL > > > > Free Art > > > > > > No other licenses are accepted? > > > > > > that are the licenses from > > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing#Good_Licenses_3 who makes > > sense > > > for pictures > > > > The current wiki pages pretty much says that any licenses from this page is > > fine, that's why I went for the text field instead of the drop-down list. > > But I'm fine only allowing these 5 licenses if that's what we want > > (see below) > > > > please read, there are differences between "content" and "code" licenses > > > > > > > but here please no autofill! So when dropdown, with an empty > > field > > > and > > > > that should not allowed, so that the submitter has to choose! > > > > > > Well CC-BY-SA will be the default (first) option. > > > > > > please not, simple the submitter will use it without knowing what it > > is. > > > We have to make sure he CHOOSE it > > > > Fixed using drop-down list, no default and no license is not a valid > > choice :) > > > > > > Review: > > > > > > > > * for what purpose is the text field on the end? > > > > > > Explain why a candidate is rejected > > > > > > your second submission eg has to be rejected " brand or trademark" ;) > > > > Well that's the information that will be given to the submiter, so it has > > to be > > something "nice" and self-explanatory, "Images contains a brand" is a valid > > reason to reject a submission :) > > > > There are more reasons ;) > > > br gnokii > > > > > > > Pierre > > > > > > -- > make me rich, buy my Inkscape book http://is.gd/yq5OD0 ;) > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/design-team/attachments/20131218/a376c6c5/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:08:31 +0100 > From: Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: buergermeister@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: Fedora Design Team <design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: About nuancier > Message-ID: <20131218150831.GJ4499@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 03:24:12PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote: > > 2013/12/18 Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 02:33:17PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote: > > > 2013/12/18 Pierre-Yves Chibon <pingou@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 01:40:44PM +0100, S.Kemter wrote: > > > > First of all, I am still not convinced to get the pressure > > back to > > > have an > > > > FAS account for an submission, we agreed for F19 that that > > would be > > > not > > > > necessary but we had no way arround as you need one for the > > wiki. > > > So there > > > > was only two who used the way to send me something and I > > submitted > > > it to > > > > the wiki. > > > > > > Well you can still submit the file in the name of someone else. > > > > > > yeah but you are not the author, so how shall I notice that then? > > > > So we actually want to consider the case where: > > * Joe takes a pictures and puts it on flicker under CC-BY-SA > > * Jane sees the picture and likes it a lot > > * Jane wants to submit it to nuancier > > * Jane does not want to create a FAS account > > * Jane asks Dave to upload the picture taken by Joe for her > > > > ?? > > > > wowowow, just make it simple possible to submit without FAS account. For > > F19 we had already the case that somebody submitted the work of somebody > > else with another license. You always question me, why I have to > > disqualify if its not correct licensed eg but in this case the author > > changed the license after an conversation. > > I always asked when you spoke about 'ugly' submissions; brand, people, > wrong > license, stolen artwork are all fine reasons to reject a submission ;-) > > Anyway, back on the subject, would requiring a OpenID be ok? > If so, I'll see what I can do to port nuancier to just require an OpenID. > yahoo, google, FAS all provide OpenID login, but it makes things a little > more > tricky to store the submitter. > > > Then the titles becomes "Unicorn rocks pandas-by-mizmo"? And we display > > it as > > such? > > > > isnt there a difference between file name and name? > > There is on the one side the file name which indeed incoporate the > submitter's > name. On the other side there is the title (which used to be 'Name') > which is > just the title of the artwork, so can be set to anything. > > And when looking into this I obviously found a bug ^^. > > I was checking that filename and title are unique per election but in > fact it's > both (filename and title) that must be unique for an election. > So as long as you and I provide different filename, we may use the same > title. > (Fixed and deployed) > > Ok, so beside the login question which I'm going to look into, is there > anything > else? > > > Thanks for your feedbacks :) > > Pierre > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > design-team mailing list > design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team > > End of design-team Digest, Vol 56, Issue 9 > ****************************************** -- tejas g 'You can do anything, but not everything' _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team
