On Wed, 18 May 2011 12:10:11 -0400 MÃirÃn Duffy wrote: > This team is what matters, I really don't care what outsiders think. > Those who are outsiders now are potential future contributors. If we look like constantly fighting with desktop team and even our leader we aren't going to attract new contributors :-( > On Wed, 2011-05-18 at 18:05 +0200, Martin Sourada wrote: > > > Well, I'd say, for me they're both equally important. We are > > promoting doing design the opensource way, so the process should be > > very important to us. > > A key feature of any process though it that it actually WORKS. If it > relies on people stepping up to help each other and they are not, the > process is not working. Release after release after release it is the > same story, and quite frankly I am tired of it. The current wallpaper works, if I'd compared it to software, it has less bugs than KDE 4.0 had and we shipped that one as well ;-); the process clogs on not having enough people being able/apt to contribute to wallpaper design (frankly, for me wallpaper is way beyond my skills, so I at least try to help a little with the wiki pages management, packaging and feedback). Looking at it realistically: yes, short-time the end product is more important, but long-time if the process is broken, there's bound to appear a case when the end product fails (which IMHO isn't F15 -- we produced two rather fine-looking wallpapers, even though one of them would certainly profit from little polishing). Hence I put them on equal terms. Martin
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