On Fri, 2011-04-15 at 16:10 +0200, KristÃf Timur wrote: > Every desktop environment that Fedora provides has Fedora branding. > Could you please elaborate why the shell should be an exception? The shell is not a desktop environment. GNOME 3 is. And we already compromised by allowing that to be branded via the background. There is no rule, either written down or implicit, that everything that puts a panel-like bar on the top of your monitor has to have a Fedora logo in the left corner. As I said, this kind of branding was somewhat expected with gnome 2, which was shipped with the expectation that distributions would pick a suitable theme (or let users pick their own), background, icons, etc, and would decide the number of panels, and on a suitable default arrangement of items on them (or again, let the users pick). GNOME 3 is very explicitly going away from that 'tool box' approach. We want to provide a recognizable experience, that is nice and polished by default, and does not need 'improvement' or 'branding' by each distribution. You can see that in many things: we removed the theme capplet, the shell does not support themes, etc etc. So yes, GNOME 3 is very different from GNOME 2 in that respect. _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team