On 12/21/2010 03:39 PM, Camilo Mesias wrote: > I think this is wrong: > >> Provide the *better* default. > > That assumes that there is such a thing as 'better' when really it's > subjective. X might be better for Fedora, Y might be better for Gnome And this is the crux of the debate we have here, do we want the better for Fedora or for GNOME. > and either might be equally good for a user! For the user is important to have an *usable* wallpaper and a smooth experience. >> The default is what the users will see for the first time ans what the >> reviews will feature. It is the first impression and is important. > > If there was a choice then the reviews would notice that, surely? > Would they complain more about being offered a choice than about > someone else's idea of the 'better' background? Yes, asking for that choice would be bad usability and a real reason for us to be shamed. As much as I oppose having the upstream wallpaper as a default, I would agree is better having it instead of asking the user to choose at the wrong time (firstboot). > I would be much more worried about first impressions of things like > Gnome Shell than the background. If we provide Gnome Shell by default, > will anyone even notice the background? The plan from the Desktop people is to have the Shell as a default (if it will be ready in time) and their intention is to use the upstream wallpaper as default to emphasize this. -- nicu :: http://nicubunu.ro :: http://nicubunu.blogspot.com/ _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team