On Wed, 2010-07-07 at 08:42 -0400, Paul W. Frields wrote: > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:48:11AM +0300, Nicu Buculei wrote: > > On 07/07/2010 02:42 AM, Chris Jones wrote: > > > I hate selinux with a passion. And (also) running Ubuntu that has no > > > selinux is a joy for myself. > > > I am not saying that it doesn't serve its intended purpose, but is it > > > really necessary to be included in the Design Spin? I think not. > > > > Disabling SELinux on my desktop is one of the first things I do after a > > fresh install, *but* I pretty much know what I am doing there, I would > > *never* recommend that to a newbie or non-security conscious user (as > > the designers are presumed to be). So we must have SELinux installed and > > active by default. > > I wanted to correct a misconception about the statistics for SELinux. > According to smolts.org[1], almost 70% of systems reporting to Smolt > have SELinux enabled, and most of these have SELinux in enforcing > mode. > > I think these changes are due to both the excellent maintenance of > policy by Dan Walsh and others, and also more effective communication > about the benefits of SELinux. > I'd second that. I remember some years ago SELinux on desktop was practically unusable -- lots of problems, applications stopping to work because of it -- but now, I have SELinux turned on in enforcing mode and everything works without issues. One thing that bugs me though, is that the troubleshoot applet is slow like hell (and I still have some wrongly-labeled directories from the olden times which I slowly relabel anytime a SELinux denial pops up...) :-D Martin
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