On Thursday 08 April 2010 04:25:59 am Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/08/2010 06:25 AM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > > "we work together". Really, the description is necessarily a bit fuzzy, > > since the collaboration between various involved groups (fedora > > designers, desktop team, upstreams) is a fluid process. And I would > > argue that it is good to leave things on this level. Unless you want to > > follow the Ubuntu model where the Canonical design team is calling the > > shots behind closed doors... > > On the contrary, that sort of thing is precisely what I am trying to > avoid and ensure that we have thought about this in length. If the > responsibilities are defined clearly, we set the expectations > accordingly and if we commit ourselves explicitly to work on a > collaborative way, we can expect the community to hold us accountable > for that. So I would like to see the document to a bit more explicit > about the process that we are trying to follow even if is a fluid one, > say so! > > > It has rarely been the case in the past that the design team has > > proposed changes 'spontaneously'. Most cases that I have been involved > > in have started with a request for design advice from the other side. > > > > Maybe this is something that we should consider changing. I think it > > could be interesting to have 'UX focus areas' for a release. E.g. we > > could declare F14 to be the 'release where we examine and improve the > > printing experience', and organize UI reviews/papercut sessions around > > that topic. Of course, this requires buy-in from the maintainers and > > developers of affected packages. > > Yes. I would like to see the design team focus beyond themes, more into > these sort of broader changes, working with the Desktop SIG (Not that it > isn't already happening) Hi Rahul, this shouldn't be limited by "Desktop SIG" only, there are other teams over there - already mentioned Anaconda, we (system configuration tools) etc... So instead of mentioning Desktop SIG I would use Fedora sub-projects - this of course means broader collaboration - project, UX team, destkop team and input from other (possibly) affected teams. But yes - it should go beyond wallpaper, splashes and marketing banners - maybe more consistency over releases would allow design team (and me too) do more work. But on the other side - I like new visual experience (and really very different every release). The dark side - I don't have time to follow it in KDE everywhere I'd like to see (e.g Plasma theme). Jaroslav > > Rahul > > _______________________________________________ > design-team mailing list > design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team -- Jaroslav Řezník <jreznik@xxxxxxxxxx> Software Engineer - Base Operating Systems Brno Office: +420 532 294 275 Mobile: +420 602 797 774 Red Hat, Inc. http://cz.redhat.com/ _______________________________________________ design-team mailing list design-team@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/design-team