Re: [Design-team] Constantine

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On 07/06/2009 06:11 PM, Máirín Duffy wrote:> Was wondering if anybody had thoughts about this - I put a bit of work> into it and haven't gotten any feedback yet! :)
Ops! It was a long message with a lot of intense content, so I scheduled it "later" and then forgot about it...
> On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 20:09 -0400, Máirín Duffy wrote:>> - Mortality vs Immortality - Byzantine art&  culture flourished over>> 1000 years (330-1453) and is still known of today - We can relate this>> to Fedora - Fedora does not try to only look 'cool' on the surface and>> not have much substance underneath; Fedora is very concerned about>> quality and doing the right thing. Fedora hopefully is at the forefront>> of promoting a culture/philosophy and producing a quality system that>> will bring order and the right way forward. A few ideas on representing>> this: have a simple&  transparent (or not quite drawn-in) subject grow>> in complexity&  depth and become more opaque maybe. Or go from weak to>> saturated colors and/or values. The message would be along the lines of>> Fedora's hopeful grasp towards greatness/eternity.
Something like tatica's blue mosaic, well defined in the center and fading towards the edges. Or the coin idea some were talking about, also can be fading in/out.We need the strong subject/metaphor for greatness/eternity.
>> - The natural/impermanent/imperfect vs. technology/permanent/perfect ->> building on the above theme... Yeats makes reference to Byzantine>> Emperor Theophilos' singing mechanical golden birds (he also had>> mechanical golden lions as well, hmmm... :) ) I feel like themes that>> deal with technology vs nature usually pose technology in the 'bad guy'>> light and nature in the 'good guy' light, so it might be interesting to>> send a message that poses technology (Fedora) as an ally of nature (the>> people using Fedora) to make it better (to improve Fedora users' lives).>> Visually this could maybe take a steampunk bird form hehe.
Paul's idea about vines resonate with me, when I was playing with the steampunk concept for F10 I was thinking "the next one may be something more connected to the nature with vines and stuff".We are going far from the "simple, vector" target but I can't stop thinking about a being half mechanical (steampunk?) half organic (vines?)
>> - Order from Chaos - Constantine was known for bringing order to the>> chaos of the Roman empire at the time he began rule and Constantinople>> seems to have served as a central hub / symbol of that order. Perhaps>> Fedora is the Constantinople to the chaos of crappy, proprietary>> software. The message would be that open source software is inevitable>> and is the way forward to order and progress.
There is great potential in this and I think we may find a way to approach it with something simple. Order is simplicity.Firther reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_%28order_and_disorder%29
On a second thought, reading the link above, isn't the "Cathedral and the Bazaar" exactly the opposite, with the proprietary development model an ordered cathedral and FOSS a chaotic bazaar? Maybe we talk about a new king of "order", not one imposed from the above, but one growing naturally from the foundations?
>> - Liberation through enlightenment - '... Consume my heart away; sick>> with desire... gather me Into the artifice of eternity.' Liberation of>> the soul from worldly desires... liberation of the software and more>> generally culture from worldly desires...? worldly desires = closed>> firmware and patented codecs? hehe
And the sinners can see the light and redeem themselves... we are *almost* religious here :pOr, by contrary, we are anti-religious: enlightenment breaking the dogma and bringing personal and collective freedom.
I think we may try to illustrate this in a simple way with an eruption/explosion of light.
>> - Unity/Coming together to make something great - and could quite easily>> be communicated with the golden mosaic designs already being discussed ->> alone one tile is nothing special, but the tiles together can make a>> beautiful piece of art. Along similar lines, Constantinople itself was a>> trading center where many cultures intersected.
This one is also good, a distro is *a lot* about integration and more than the sum of its parts.And we have a lot of stories to tell about the combination of our four fonndations.
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