On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 23:26 +0800, Andy Fitzsimon wrote: > Hi martin, > > If you could help me understand our limitations ill make some more > specific mockups for you > > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3021/2706976226_d9d7e58f17_o.png > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3049/2706174405_6f7cb0e3a7_o.png > > No points for being original here, I was thinking ofwhat osx and xp > would look like if they were smashed together in the right way. > > getting the conditionals to render like this is what I am more interested in. > > > Andy The mock-ups looks great. The basic idea is implementable, one of the biggest limitations we have is that you should draw stuff only on the widget's "rectangle of being" otherwise you'll bound to hit problems with specific cases of repaints of the area, also in gtk 2 there is no hope for real transparency in Entry and Progress Bars + all other widgets that contain Entry. We are also slightly limited in the number of various states, like there is probably no way how to check that button has state "working...". For the multi-select listview, I noticed in your mockup, I am not sure if that's possible to implement - as the drawing function is called for all items separately, but I cannot say now that it's impossible. That's for the limitations that came to my mind just now, more are usually discovered during the actual implementation :-p Stay tuned on nodoka related topics in the art-list, I'll post link to documentation-in-progress for the upcoming branch and so far I drafted the Configuration Options chapter. I added option called "style" which can be set to CLASSIC (for the current nodoka), MODERN (for the future default nodoka look, currently present only in my sketches) and GLOSSY (for your style, if you have better name feel free to suggest it). Next section that I'll write will cover the used gradients and reflections. That should help me in deciding on best way how to implement gradients/reflections settings in drawing functions in the actual code, so if you have in mind final version of the gradients you use (only basic settings, colour will be hopefully treated separately) email me with the settings. You can also wait till I write the sections for the CLASSIC and MODERN styles to see what I have in mind, or ask me to extract them from the svgs you posted :) BTW. to see most of the used widgets, together with many of their available states, you can use thewidgetfactory (in fedora repos, then in Applications -> Programming -> The Widget Factory). It would be nice if your "final sketch" would be fake screen-shot of it's window to see how the theme will look in real environment. Thanks, Martin
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