On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 23:06 +0100, Jakub 'Livio' Rusinek wrote: > Martin Sourada wrote: > Easier would be making tango-compiliant theme to play well with GNOME apps. > That would be pointless. We are offering an alternative that is stylistically (coincidentally) in between the tango style and oxygen style. I personally think that Echo can work quite good together (to some extent) with both, while tango and oxygen really don't work together at all... > Some apps are using hardcoded pixmaps, but better are tangoish, than > old-GNOME-1.x. > Hard-coded pixmaps are bad, if you keep fillings bugs about those, the situation might improve for all the people trying to make their own icon themes (and guessing from look at gnome-look.org there are a lot of them). > You cannot theme them, so style will be mixing. > Yep and that's bad. Not everyone likes tango/oxygen/echo/bluecurve/whatever and we need to make it possible for people to use whatever theme they like but with consistent look throughout the desktop. > I'm said you decided to create icon theme from 0... > Nope, we decided to build up a theme around the basis started as a personal project by former Red Hat employee Diana Fong which happened to be quite liked by the fedora community but was far from complete and partially inconsistent (which still is, though now at least we have the guidelines and created a lot new icons since then)... But like I said before, while Echo icon theme has a lot of fans and followers we are short of contributors, which slows down the development to such extent that every now and then people question the possibility of it ever being complete. When I have some more time (probably after a week or two) I plan to try to attract new contributors in the fedoraforum.org, but who knows if it will work... We certainly need some more publicity for might-be-interested-people to notice that we might need their help. (and of course any ideas/suggestions/actions in that way is appreciated as I am not really experienced in that filed, though it worked for the Nodoka in past [at least to speed up the most needed part of making the fork of the murrine engine]...). But also, we need to improve the infrastructure as well, the ToDo page is outdated, and we need to expand it more (mostly in the field of reviewing existing icons for guidelines violations) and start going through the schedule for 0.4 release which aims to be so much complete as to be able to be set as default icon theme. There is hell a lot of work and I have serious doubts about being it done even for F10 given there are currently only two of us actively participating in that (with some occasional appreciated efforts from Mark). And I personally think, you being one of the persons who like pursuing issues, you could probably help a lot with making the ToDo page, given that you already listed some of that in your tickets and here on art-list. Martin
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