Mark wrote:
What is the advantage of the edit in place over the current label + form
field model?
well.. with edit in place you have it in a way better looking design and
is (in my opinion) alot more user friendly.
It's not enough to have an opinion. You should test both designs and see
if that truly is the case. You can test paper mockups if you need to.
(see http://www.useit.com/alertbox/20030414.html). Check out
www.betterdesktop.org for more information about user testing. You'll
see in a few of those usability testing reports that things usability
professionals thought might be more usable were actually less so in
practice than they thought (and vice-versa).
perhaps a edit in place with
a small icon bisides it that indicates that you can edit it. thinking
ahead is also possible instead of sticking with the current gnome HIG :)
Brainstorming is fine but it is not a good idea to impose untested ideas
in a piece meal fashion to achieve progress.
(btw.. i looked over some pages in the current HIG and i can`t really
say that it`s a good example.. it looks like it`s from the windows 3.1
age (about 20 years ago)) things need to go forward if that`s a
improvement ofcause.
Did you look at the 2.0 HIG or the development version (there is a link
to the development version on that page)
Looks and interactions are different. Just because the screenshots in
the hig may show a very old GTK theme doesn't mean the principles aren't
the same for the newer, nicer-looking GTK themes like clearlooks.
Do you see how in the current screen, the shortcuts are underlined? How
would a user know to hit Ctrl + U? Also, is the Ctrl + U key combination
bound to some other function? (probably)
no.. lets just do that the same way it was done before. otherwise users
can browse through the fields with the TAB button on the keyboard.
What if the user already filled out the form and realized they
misspelled something in the 3 field. You want them to cycle through the
complete set of items with Tab? I don't think so.
Try setting up Orca (The gnome accessibility system) and try to use it
for a day. The problem will become exceedingly clear to you then, I think.
and some more stuff i might forgor to mention...
in the current gnome (all apps) i hate it that it`s not as "feeling
natural" as i would like it to be and that alot parts are looking like:
"quickly done and it works so leave it alone" jobs (sorry if i offended
anyone) but now that the linux community is growing alot (specially
fedora) i think it`s time to spend some time in the user interfaces
aswell instead of only improving the coding (not that improving the
coding is wrong..
Sure, but let's spend time trying to improve the UIs that are in sorest
need of help than those that are already pretty polished?
Can you list out the applications in particular you think need UI work?
absolutely not) gnome just misses alot of things that
i miss and i try to improve it a bit by contibuting. in this case it`s a
mockup but i`ve also reported a few bugs and uasbillity issues (like
that thumbnails are way out of scale compared to icons and truncating
long text and another one.. don`t know which one it was)
this mockup might not really improve the way gnome works but it`s surely
improving the user settings panel.
But you admitted it really didn't improve anything, it was just a
different look?
o and i took the Live CD because my fc7 test 2 installation decided to
kill itself with printscreen (reported on bugzilla)
Makes sense.
~m
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