On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 02:29:57PM -0400, Sev Binello wrote: > > > >3) Periodically, and at a non-peak time, use the e2image program to > >save a backup copy of the filesystem metadata. Do this *especially* > >if you don't have space to do a real backup. This will give you at > >least some measure of a saving throw against a single bad disk write > >(caused by malfunctioning storage hardware, or the aforementioned > >buggy binary-only graphical driver written in C++ with the pointer > >error) from destroying a huge numer of files. > > I noted this response with interest. > I was unaware of this tool. It's been around since e2fsprogs 1.20 (May 20, 2001), but it hasn't gotten a lot of play outside of my "Recovering From Hard Drive Disasters" Usenix tutorial. Anyone feel like writing a HOWTO document? :-) > I did a quick test and looks simple to use, are there any caveats or > hidden gotchas ? > I understand it will only restore to the state it was in when the > image was taken, > but in a pinch that maybe an alternative we could use. In general I'd recommend against using the e2image -I option. As I've stated in the man page, it is rarely the right answer. It's there primarily so I can do a demonstration of recovering from a mke2fs (and it is quite the impressive demo), but unless the e2image is very fresh, it is very likely that it will do more harm than good. The main use of the e2image file is that you can use it with debugfs: debugfs -d /dev/sda2 -i sda2.e2i Now you can use the dump and rdump commands to copy out critical files from the damaged filesystem. > Any idea how long it takes to create/restore ? The main cost is the time to read the entire inode table from the filesystem and write it back out to the e2image file, so it really depends on the size of the filesystem. On my when-I-have-time-for-a-quick-hack list, I have adding a new option to e2image which assumes that the filesystem bitmap blocks are trustworthy and will only back up the portion of the inode table which is actually in use. That will almost certainly be in the next version of e2fsprogs, since that's a pretty simple change. > Would it make sense to run on a daily basis ? If you have sufficient amounts of off-peak time, yes! > Also, wondering if you could point me to documentation explaining > how to > respond to e2fsck questions when it finds problems in the file system. Hmm, there really isn't any. In general the right answer is almost always 'yes', but sometimes I'll take a quick look at the filesystem using debugfs before answering yes just in case manual intervention could do a better job. The big thing is that if e2fsck wants to relocate an inode table, you almost always want to stop and backup metadata blocks using e2image first. In fact I'm thinking about revamping that logic since right now the potential for doing great harm to the filesystem is far too high. So the fact that you might want to say 'n' there is really more of a sane of a e2fsck bug, or at least misdesign, more than anything else. Regards, - Ted _______________________________________________ Ext3-users mailing list Ext3-users@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users