In August I reported a problem with the sys_ftruncate call that caused me to reboot my machine. I didn't see any responses to it then on the ext3 list, and the problem is now recurring, so I thought I'd try again. I don't think I've rebooted since the last problem. In the last few days it hasn't taken as long as 17 hours, but it has sometimes taken unusual and uncomfortable amounts of time (many minutes at least). Normally, with my 266 MB $MAIL, it only takes a few seconds to update the file, since mutt is clever enough to only write the tail end of the file starting with the first change. It doesn't seem like a mutt bug, since the whole episode takes place inside a single system call, and the problem only showed up after upgrading to Redhat 7.3 and ext3. Any clues? Anything to test out before rebooting and fscking again? Neal McBurnett http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/ GPG/PGP signed and/or sealed mail encouraged. Keyid: 2C9EBA60 ----- Forwarded message from Neal McBurnett <neal@bcn.boulder.co.us> ----- From: Neal McBurnett <neal@bcn.boulder.co.us> To: ext3-users@redhat.com Subject: sys_ftruncate call lasting 17 hours on ext3 filesystem from mutt Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:26:08 -0600 Several times recently my "mutt" email program has looped for hours at a time in the middle of a sys_ftruncate call. This happens when I use the "$" command to write changes out to my mailbox. It does eventually return from the call and everything seems to have worked ok. But in the meantime the CPU is pegged, $MAIL is locked so I can't receive new mail, and signals to the program (like kill -9) don't take effect for hours. Once it was 17 hours, once 3, etc. The problem showed up shortly after upgrading from Red Hat 7.1 and converting the file systems to ext3. I'm running Red Hat 7.3, kernel 2.4.18-3, mutt-1.2.5.1-1. Strace didn't help at all, but thanks to a tip from Kevin Fenzi I learned how to use sysrq to find out where the process was, viz: 18:03:10 kernel: mutt R current 1024 8893 7929 (NOTLB) 18:03:10 kernel: Call Trace: [<c0127061>] truncate_list_pages [kernel] 0x79 18:03:10 kernel: [<c01271ff>] truncate_inode_pages [kernel] 0x3b 18:03:10 kernel: [<c0124f2e>] vmtruncate [kernel] 0x96 18:03:10 kernel: [<c01491f0>] inode_setattr [kernel] 0x24 18:03:10 kernel: [<d401f963>] ext3_setattr [ext3] 0x1c3 18:03:10 kernel: [<d401d810>] ext3_get_block [ext3] 0x0 18:03:10 kernel: [<c01281db>] do_generic_file_read [kernel] 0x2c3 18:03:10 kernel: [<c0149359>] notify_change [kernel] 0x5d 18:03:10 kernel: [<c012a2aa>] generic_file_write [kernel] 0x5c2 18:03:10 kernel: [<c01348ce>] do_truncate [kernel] 0x46 18:03:10 kernel: [<c0134bd1>] sys_ftruncate [kernel] 0x12d 18:03:10 kernel: [<c01085f7>] system_call [kernel] 0x33 I noticed that an fsck hadn't been done for months, so I did one with this result, indicating some sort of problem with $MAIL: 13:25:31 fsck: /var: 13:25:31 fsck: Truncating orphaned inode 44891 (uid=6265, gid=6265, mode=0100600, size=175526062) 13:25:36 fsck: /var has gone 69 days without being checked, check forced. 13:25:43 fsck: /var: 1057/104040 files (24.0% non-contiguous), 281356/415768 blocks The file in question is large: 44891 -rw------- 1 neal neal 175694250 Aug 13 13:50 /var/mail/neal I haven't seen the problem in the last day, but I've had successful days in the past also. I would hope that even in the face of a file system problem, the kernel shouldn't take so long to do a system call. Any ideas? Is there a bug-tracking system (bugzilla?) for ext3 or the kernel? Thanks, Neal McBurnett http://bcn.boulder.co.us/~neal/ GPG/PGP signed and/or sealed mail encouraged. Keyid: 2C9EBA60 _______________________________________________ Ext3-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users ----- End forwarded message ----- _______________________________________________ Ext3-users@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/ext3-users