I'm trying to pick a kernel for ext3. Looking at the web page (http://www.zip.com.au/~akpm/linux/ext3/), I see little that clues me in to the fact that "most" of ext3 is already in (some|most|all) of the 2.4 series kernels. Am I correct that most of the patches listed on the web page now are actually bug fixes to the existing ext3 code, as opposed to previous patches that actually added ext3 functionality to the stock kernels? New arrivals to the page will want to know that, especially given all the out-of-date documentation floating around the Net saying you have to patch to add ext3 to the kernel. As best I understand what I see on the web page, patches get put there because of the time lag in getting them into the actual kernel. A patch put on the web page for kernel X.Y is eventually rolled into kernel X.Z (for some Z > Y) and the patch is unneccessary for anyone running kernels X.P for all P >= Z. What is *not* at all clear is how newcomers can determine the value of "Z". Is the patch ext3-2.4-0.9.16-2417p2.gz against 2.4.17-pre2 already incorported into the next kernel version 2.4.17-pre3, or did it hang around until 2.4.17-pre4, or -pre5, or -pre999? Did it make it into the kernel at all? How can we know? Could the web page be updated to contain the information about in which kernel version the listed patches have actually been applied? Merci and thank you to all doing this excellent work. -- -IAN! Ian! D. Allen Ottawa, Ontario, Canada idallen@ncf.ca Home Page on the Ottawa FreeNet: http://www.ncf.ca/~aa610/ College professor at: http://www.algonquincollege.com/~alleni/ Board Member, TeleCommunities CANADA http://www.tc.ca/