On 2014년 08월 11일 16:24, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 02:19:21PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>> On 2014년 08월 08일 18:55, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 04:37:07PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>> On 2014년 08월 08일 16:03, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:45:47AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 22:55, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 10:39:29PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 22:17, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 10:05:44PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 20:09, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:49:03PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 18:09, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 04:51:18PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 15:58, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 02:09:19AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-08-06 16:43 GMT+09:00 Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell non-continuous mode simply means that the host can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn off the HS clock after a high-speed transmission. I think Andrzej
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentioned this already in another subthread, but this is an optional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode that peripherals can support if they have extra circuitry that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> provides an internal clock. Peripherals that don't have such circuitry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may rely on the HS clock to perform in between transmissions and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore require the HS clock to be always on (continuous mode). That's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what the MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS flag is: it advertises that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> peripheral supports non-continuous mode and therefore the host can turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the HS clock off after high-speed transmissions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I don't make sure is this sentence. With
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTIUOUS flag, I guess two possible operations.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. host controller will generates signals if a bit of a register
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to non-contiguous clock mode is set or unset.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. And then video data is transmitted to panel in HS mode.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. And then D-PHY detects LP-11 signal (positive and negative lane all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are high).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. And then D-PHY disables HS clock of host controller.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5. At this time, operation mode of host controller becomes LPM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. host controller will generates signals if a bit of a register
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related to non-contiguous clock mode is set or unset.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2. And then D-PHY detects LP-11 signal (positive and negative lane all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are high).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. And then video data is transmitted to panel in LPM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. At this time, operation mode of host controller becomes LPM.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that you says latter case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. High speed clock and low power mode are orthogonal. Non-continuous
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode simply means that the clock lane enters LP-11 between HS
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmissions (see 5.6 "Clock Management" of the DSI specification).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It seems that clock lane enters LP-11 regardless of HS clock enabled if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> non-continous mode is used. Right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, I think as long as HS clock is enabled the clock lane won't enter
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LP-11. Non-continuous mode means that the controller can disable the HS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clock between HS transmissions. So in non-continuous mode the clock lane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> can enter LP-11 because the controller disables the HS clock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It makes me a little bit confusing. You said "if HS clock is enabled,
>>>>>>>>>>>> the the clock lane won't enter LP-11" But you said again "the clock lane
>>>>>>>>>>>> can enter LP-11 because the controller disables the HS clock" What is
>>>>>>>>>>>> the meaning?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It means that if the HS clock is enabled, then the clock lane is not in
>>>>>>>>>>> LP-11. When the HS clock stops, then the clock lane enters LP-11.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In continuous mode, then the clock will never be disabled, hence the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clock lane will never enter LP-11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And also it seems that non-continous mode is different from LPM at all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because with non-continuous mode, command data is transmitted to panel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in HS mode, but with LPM, command data is transmitted to panel in LP
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode. Also right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. I think you can send command data to the peripheral in low power
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode in both continuous and non-continuous clock modes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, shouldn't the host driver disable HS clock, in case of LP mode,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> before the host driver transmits command data?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No. If the peripheral doesn't support non-continuous mode, then the HS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clock must never be turned off. On the other hand, if the peripheral
>>>>>>>>>>>>> supports non-continuous mode, then the DSI host should automatically
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disable the HS clock between high-speed transmissions. That means if a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> packet is transmitted in low power mode the DSI host will not be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transmitting in high-speed mode and therefore disable the HS clock.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What is LPM you think? I thought LPM is LP-11 and HS clock disabled. So
>>>>>>>>>>>> for LPM transfer, lanes should be LP-11 state and also HS clock of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> host controller should be disabled.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No. I don't think any transmissions can happen when all lanes are in
>>>>>>>>>>> LP-11 state. The MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM is used to specify that a packet
>>>>>>>>>>> should be transmitted in low power mode (see LP Transmission in 2.1
>>>>>>>>>>> "Definitions" of the MIPI DSI specification).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hm.. I see. I meant,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> if (flags & MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM)
>>>>>>>>>> disable HS clock <- required.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> transmit command data <- in LPM.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No. Disabling the HS clock is not required for LPM mode. In fact if the
>>>>>>>>> peripheral specifies that it doesn't support non-continuous mode then
>>>>>>>>> the HS clock must *never* be disabled as long as the peripheral is in
>>>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM and MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS are unrelated and
>>>>>>>>> need to be considered separately.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I mentioned already LPM and NON_CONTINUOUS are unrelated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It seems that you say the only way to transfer command data in LPM is
>>>>>>>> non-continuous clock mode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, that's not what I'm saying.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, you said and also the spec says, "Non-continuous mode simply
>>>>>>>> means that the clock lane enters LP-11 between HS transmissions".
>>>>>>>> Doesn't *between HS transmissions" mean the command data is transmitted
>>>>>>>> in HS, *not in LPM*, and clock lane enters LP-11 between them?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not necessarily. You can transmit command packets in high-speed mode,
>>>>>>> but you don't have to. If you transmit packets in low power mode, then
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would may why we are mentioning same comments repeatedly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In my case, host driver waits for the lane stop state (LP-11), and then
>>>>>> disables HS clock to transmit command data in LPM. Of course, I'm not
>>>>>> sure that yet it's correct way.
>>>>>
>>>>> That's confusing. How can the lane go to LP-11 when the clock is still
>>>>> running?
>>>>
>>>> Actually, we are doing so. If the clock is still running then dsi driver
>>>> will wait for stop state of the clock and data lanes. Know that this is
>>>> valid only when initial time - just one time since power up.
>>>>
>>>> /* Check clock and data lane state are stop state */
>>>> timeout = 100;
>>>> do {
>>>> if (timeout-- == 0) {
>>>> dev_err(dsi->dev, "waiting for bus lanes timed out\n");
>>>> return -EFAULT;
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> reg = readl(dsi->reg_base + DSIM_STATUS_REG);
>>>> if ((reg & DSIM_STOP_STATE_DAT(lanes_mask))
>>>> != DSIM_STOP_STATE_DAT(lanes_mask))
>>>> continue;
>>>> } while (!(reg & (DSIM_STOP_STATE_CLK | DSIM_TX_READY_HS_CLK)));
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In Tegra, What to do for it?
>>>>>
>>>>> There are two bits in two separate registers for this:
>>>>>
>>>>> DSI_HOST_CONTROL:
>>>>> bit 5: DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS: DSI high speed transmission of
>>>>> packets
>>>>> - 0 = LOW: low speed
>>>>> - 1 = HIGH: high speed
>>>>>
>>>>> DSI_CONTROL:
>>>>> bit 20: DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL: Control for the HS clock lane
>>>>> - 0 = CONTINUOUS: HS clock is on all the time
>>>>> - 1 = TX_ONLY: HS clock is only active during HS
>>>>> transmissions
>>>>>
>>>>> So if the peripheral supports non-continuous mode of operation we set
>>>>> the DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL bit, otherwise we clear it to make sure the clock
>>>>> remains on all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> When a packet is to be transmitted in high speed mode, we set the
>>>>> DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS bit. For low power mode transmissions that bit is
>>>>> cleared.
>>>>
>>>> That is exactly what I want. In your case, if you want to transmit
>>>> command data in Low Power Mode in case of supporting non-continuous
>>>> clock mode, then you would set DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL (TX_ONLY), and also you
>>>> would clear DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS (LOW).
>>>>
>>>> So I guess,
>>>>
>>>> if (flags & MIPI_DSI_MODE_NON_CONTINUOUS) {
>>>> disable DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS; <- LOW
>>>> enable DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL; <- TX_ONLY
>>>> }
>>>>
>>>> transmit command data <- in LPM.
>>>>
>>>> However, what if the peripheral doesn't support non-continuous but want
>>>> to transmit command data in LPM? Is that impossible?
>>>
>>> The above is actually more like this:
>>>
>>> if ((flags & MIPI_DSI_MODE_NON_CONTINUOUS) == 0)
>>> clear DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL;
>>> else
>>> set DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL;
>>>
>>> if (msg->flags & MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM)
>>> clear DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS;
>>> else
>>> set DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS;
>>>
>>> So for peripherals that don't support non-continuous clock mode, this
>>> will result in the following for low-power transmissions:
>>>
>>> clear DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL; /* HS clock always on */
>>> clear DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS;
>>
>> Right, then how host driver should check it if peripheral doesn't
>> support non-continuous clock mode? Or how the peripheral should notify
>> it to host driver? It would need a new flag instead of
>> MIPI_DSI_MODE_NON_CONTINUOUS.
>
> MIPI_DSI_MODE_NON_CONTINUOUS is exactly the flag that devices need to
> set to signal that they support non-continuous mode. If devices don't
> have that set, then the controller should always provide the HS clock.
>
> So, if MIPI_DSI_MODE_NON_CONTINUOUS is *not* set, then the peripheral
> does *not* support non-continuous mode.
>
Again, assume that there is a peripheral that doesn't support
non-continuous clock mode but host driver want to transmit data in low
power. For this, you already mentioned like below,
"So for peripherals that don't support non-continuous clock mode, this
will result in the following for low-power transmissions:
clear DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL; /* HS clock always on */
clear DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS;
"
In this case, how should host driver check it to clear above two flags?
As you know, this is required to clear two flags same as non-continuous
clock mode. Don't you think that we need a new flag to identify them -
non-continuous clock mode or just for low-power transmission?
Thanks,
Inki Dae
> Thierry
>
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