Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] drm/mipi-dsi: add (LPM) Low Power Mode transfer support

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On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 10:45:47AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
> On 2014년 08월 07일 22:55, Thierry Reding wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 10:39:29PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
> >> On 2014년 08월 07일 22:17, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 10:05:44PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
> >>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 20:09, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 07:49:03PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 18:09, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 04:51:18PM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
> >>>>>>>> On 2014년 08월 07일 15:58, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 07, 2014 at 02:09:19AM +0900, Inki Dae wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>> 2014-08-06 16:43 GMT+09:00 Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >>>>>>> [...]
> >>>>>>>>>>> As far as I can tell non-continuous mode simply means that the host can
> >>>>>>>>>>> turn off the HS clock after a high-speed transmission. I think Andrzej
> >>>>>>>>>>> mentioned this already in another subthread, but this is an optional
> >>>>>>>>>>> mode that peripherals can support if they have extra circuitry that
> >>>>>>>>>>> provides an internal clock. Peripherals that don't have such circuitry
> >>>>>>>>>>> may rely on the HS clock to perform in between transmissions and
> >>>>>>>>>>> therefore require the HS clock to be always on (continuous mode). That's
> >>>>>>>>>>> what the MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS flag is: it advertises that the
> >>>>>>>>>>> peripheral supports non-continuous mode and therefore the host can turn
> >>>>>>>>>>> the HS clock off after high-speed transmissions.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> What I don't make sure is this sentence. With
> >>>>>>>>>> MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTIUOUS flag, I guess two possible operations.
> >>>>>>>>>> One is,
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. host controller will generates signals if a bit of a register
> >>>>>>>>>> related to non-contiguous clock mode is set or unset.
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. And then video data is transmitted to panel in HS mode.
> >>>>>>>>>> 3. And then D-PHY detects LP-11 signal (positive and negative lane all
> >>>>>>>>>> are high).
> >>>>>>>>>> 4. And then D-PHY disables HS clock of host controller.
> >>>>>>>>>> 5. At this time, operation mode of host controller becomes LPM.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Other is,
> >>>>>>>>>> 1. host controller will generates signals if a bit of a register
> >>>>>>>>>> related to non-contiguous clock mode is set or unset.
> >>>>>>>>>> 2. And then D-PHY detects LP-11 signal (positive and negative lane all
> >>>>>>>>>> are high).
> >>>>>>>>>> 3. And then video data is transmitted to panel in LPM.
> >>>>>>>>>> 4. At this time, operation mode of host controller becomes LPM.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> It seems that you says latter case.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> No. High speed clock and low power mode are orthogonal. Non-continuous
> >>>>>>>>> mode simply means that the clock lane enters LP-11 between HS
> >>>>>>>>> transmissions (see 5.6 "Clock Management" of the DSI specification).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It seems that clock lane enters LP-11 regardless of HS clock enabled if
> >>>>>>>> non-continous mode is used. Right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No, I think as long as HS clock is enabled the clock lane won't enter
> >>>>>>> LP-11. Non-continuous mode means that the controller can disable the HS
> >>>>>>> clock between HS transmissions. So in non-continuous mode the clock lane
> >>>>>>> can enter LP-11 because the controller disables the HS clock.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It makes me a little bit confusing. You said "if HS clock is enabled,
> >>>>>> the the clock lane won't enter LP-11" But you said again "the clock lane
> >>>>>> can enter LP-11 because the controller disables the HS clock" What is
> >>>>>> the meaning?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It means that if the HS clock is enabled, then the clock lane is not in
> >>>>> LP-11. When the HS clock stops, then the clock lane enters LP-11.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> In continuous mode, then the clock will never be disabled, hence the
> >>>>>>> clock lane will never enter LP-11.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> And also it seems that non-continous mode is different from LPM at all
> >>>>>>>> because with non-continuous mode, command data is transmitted to panel
> >>>>>>>> in HS mode, but with LPM, command data is transmitted to panel in LP
> >>>>>>>> mode. Also right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No. I think you can send command data to the peripheral in low power
> >>>>>>> mode in both continuous and non-continuous clock modes.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If so, shouldn't the host driver disable HS clock, in case of LP mode,
> >>>>>>>> before the host driver transmits command data?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> No. If the peripheral doesn't support non-continuous mode, then the HS
> >>>>>>> clock must never be turned off. On the other hand, if the peripheral
> >>>>>>> supports non-continuous mode, then the DSI host should automatically
> >>>>>>> disable the HS clock between high-speed transmissions. That means if a
> >>>>>>> packet is transmitted in low power mode the DSI host will not be
> >>>>>>> transmitting in high-speed mode and therefore disable the HS clock.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> What is LPM you think? I thought LPM is LP-11 and HS clock disabled. So
> >>>>>> for LPM transfer, lanes should be LP-11 state and also HS clock of the
> >>>>>> host controller should be disabled.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> No. I don't think any transmissions can happen when all lanes are in
> >>>>> LP-11 state. The MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM is used to specify that a packet
> >>>>> should be transmitted in low power mode (see LP Transmission in 2.1
> >>>>> "Definitions" of the MIPI DSI specification).
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hm.. I see. I meant,
> >>>>
> >>>> if (flags & MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM)
> >>>>        disable HS clock <- required.
> >>>>
> >>>> transmit command data <- in LPM.
> >>>
> >>> No. Disabling the HS clock is not required for LPM mode. In fact if the
> >>> peripheral specifies that it doesn't support non-continuous mode then
> >>> the HS clock must *never* be disabled as long as the peripheral is in
> >>> use.
> >>>
> >>> MIPI_DSI_MSG_USE_LPM and MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS are unrelated and
> >>> need to be considered separately.
> >>
> >> I mentioned already LPM and NON_CONTINUOUS are unrelated.
> >>
> >> It seems that you say the only way to transfer command data in LPM is
> >> non-continuous clock mode.
> >
> > No, that's not what I'm saying.
> >
> >> However, you said and also the spec says, "Non-continuous mode simply
> >> means that the clock lane enters LP-11 between HS transmissions".
> >> Doesn't *between HS transmissions" mean the command data is transmitted
> >> in HS, *not in LPM*, and clock lane enters LP-11 between them?
> >
> > Not necessarily. You can transmit command packets in high-speed mode,
> > but you don't have to. If you transmit packets in low power mode, then
> 
> That would may why we are mentioning same comments repeatedly.
> 
> In my case, host driver waits for the lane stop state (LP-11), and then
> disables HS clock to transmit command data in LPM. Of course, I'm not
> sure that yet it's correct way.

That's confusing. How can the lane go to LP-11 when the clock is still
running?

> In Tegra, What to do for it?

There are two bits in two separate registers for this:

	DSI_HOST_CONTROL:
	  bit 5: DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS: DSI high speed transmission of
	                               packets
	    - 0 = LOW: low speed
	    - 1 = HIGH: high speed

	DSI_CONTROL:
	  bit 20: DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL: Control for the HS clock lane
	    - 0 = CONTINUOUS: HS clock is on all the time
	    - 1 = TX_ONLY: HS clock is only active during HS
	                   transmissions

So if the peripheral supports non-continuous mode of operation we set
the DSI_HS_CLK_CTRL bit, otherwise we clear it to make sure the clock
remains on all the time.

When a packet is to be transmitted in high speed mode, we set the
DSI_HIGH_SPEED_TRANS bit. For low power mode transmissions that bit is
cleared.

Thierry

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