Re: [PATCH v1 1/7] virtio-gpu api: add blob userptr resource

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On 2025/3/18 9:37, Gurchetan Singh wrote:


On Thu, Mar 6, 2025 at 2:52 AM Huang, Honglei1 <Honglei1.Huang@xxxxxxx <mailto:Honglei1.Huang@xxxxxxx>> wrote:


    On 2025/3/1 5:21, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
     > On 2/28/25 12:36 AM, Honglei Huang wrote:
     >> From: Honglei Huang <Honglei1.Huang@xxxxxxx
    <mailto:Honglei1.Huang@xxxxxxx>>
     >>
     >> Add a new resource for blob resource, called userptr, used for let
     >> host access guest user space memory, to acquire buffer based userptr
     >> feature in virtio GPU.
     >>
     >> - The capset VIRTIO_GPU_CAPSET_HSAKMT used for context init,
     >> in this series patches only HSAKMT context can use the userptr
     >> feature. HSAKMT is a GPU compute library in HSA stack, like
     >> the role libdrm in mesa stack.
     >
     > Userptr should not be limited to HSMKMT contexts.  Userptr can
     > accelerate shm buffers by avoiding a copy from guest to host, and
     > it can be implemented using grant tables on Xen.

    Yes, I totally agree userptr can accelerate shm buffers, but I currently
    don't know if there are any other projects working on similar features,
    or if maintainers have any opinions or better ways to implement them, so
    I temporarily limit this feature to HSAKMT context only.

    I am waiting for everyone's opinions, please provide your thoughts.


I wonder if you can emulate userptr using udmabuf on the host-side?

Essentially for the guest, it'll be a malloc'ed memory, which means a guest sg list.  We can convert the guest sg-list to udmabuf using well- known mechanisms on the host side.  I hope amdkfd can operate on dma- bufs too?

I do such a feature that would have a more generic utility outside of HSAKMT contexts and not rely on Xen-specific grant tables  ... checkout VIRTIO_GPU_BLOB_FLAG_CREATE_GUEST_HANDLE in crosvm for an example.

I think userptr can be emulated by udmabuf if the sg list is from guest user sapce and not moveable, amdkfd can operate dma-buf, and the userptr feature can be achieved by partial functions of dma-buf as far as I can see.

But the udmabuf need managed by UMD, this will result in some performance loss, and we are planning to implement virtio GPU userptr using hmm_rang_fault, udmabuf solution may be completely different from this one.

I saw the feature VIRTIO_GPU_BLOB_FLAG_CREATE_GUEST_HANDLE is used by the crosvm in beta branch, but I can not find the kernel virtio gpu part, how to access it? Maybe I can try or help.




    Regards,
    Honglei





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