Am 10.03.25 um 10:50 schrieb Thomas Zimmermann: > Hi > > Am 07.03.25 um 14:32 schrieb Simona Vetter: >> On Fri, Mar 07, 2025 at 09:03:58AM +0100, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >>> Importing dma-bufs via PRIME requires a DMA-capable hardware device. >>> This is not the case for USB, where DMA is performed entirely by the >>> USB controller instead of the USB devices. >>> >>> Drivers for USB-based hardware maintain their own workarounds for this >>> problem. The original idea to resolve this was to provide different >>> PRIME helpers for such devices, but the dma-buf code internally assumes >>> DMA functionality as well. So that ideas is not realistic. >> So dma-buf without dma is doable, but you have to avoid dma_buf_attach. >> And that is a lot of surgery in the current prime helpers, since those >> assume that an attachment always exists. But dma-buf itself is entirely >> fine with cpu-only access through either userspace mmap or kernel vmap. > > Right. That's roughly how far I got in this direction. The field import_attach, set up by dma_buf_attach(), is currently used throughout the DRM code and drivers. Hence this series and the other one that replaced some of the uses of import_attach. Once this has all been resolved, there will be a few users of the field left, which might be uncritical. Mhm, if I remember correctly the DMA subsystem used to use the DMA mask and other parameters of the parent device when a specific device couldn't do DMA by itself. I do remember a lot of discussion about that for the DMA-buf tee driver. Going to read up on that once more. Could be that this patch here is not really necessary. Regards, Christian. > > Best regards > Thomas > >> >> I think as an interim step this is still good, since it makes the current >> hacks easier to find because at least it's all common now. >> -Sima >> >>> Let's instead turn the current workaround into a feature. Patch 1 adds a >>> dma_dev field to struct drm_device and makes the PRIME code use it. Patches >>> 2 to 5 replace related driver code. >>> >>> It will also be useful in other code. The exynos and mediatek drivers >>> already maintain a dedicated DMA device for non-PRIME code. They could >>> likely use dma_dev as well. GEM-DMA helpers currently allocate DMA >>> memory with the regular parent device. They should support the dma_dev >>> settings as well. >>> >>> Tested with udl. >>> >>> v2: >>> - maintain reference on dma_dev (Jani) >>> - improve docs (Maxime) >>> - update appletbdrm >>> >>> Thomas Zimmermann (5): >>> drm/prime: Support dedicated DMA device for dma-buf imports >>> drm/appletbdrm: Set struct drm_device.dma_dev >>> drm/gm12u320: Set struct drm_device.dma_dev >>> drm/gud: Set struct drm_device.dma_dev >>> drm/udl: Set struct drm_device.dma_dev >>> >>> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_drv.c | 21 ++++++++++++++ >>> drivers/gpu/drm/drm_prime.c | 2 +- >>> drivers/gpu/drm/gud/gud_drv.c | 33 ++++++--------------- >>> drivers/gpu/drm/gud/gud_internal.h | 1 - >>> drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/appletbdrm.c | 27 +++++++----------- >>> drivers/gpu/drm/tiny/gm12u320.c | 46 +++++++++--------------------- >>> drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl_drv.c | 17 ----------- >>> drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl_drv.h | 1 - >>> drivers/gpu/drm/udl/udl_main.c | 14 ++++----- >>> include/drm/drm_device.h | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> 10 files changed, 102 insertions(+), 101 deletions(-) >>> >>> -- >>> 2.48.1 >>> >