Re: [PATCH v7 11/12] drm/atomic-helper: Re-order bridge chain pre-enable and post-disable

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Hi Dmitry,

On 21/01/25 16:20, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 11:18:22PM +0530, Aradhya Bhatia wrote:
>> Hi Dmitry,
>>
>> On 20/01/25 14:08, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jan 17, 2025 at 06:37:00PM +0530, Aradhya Bhatia wrote:
>>>> Hi Dmitry,
>>>>
>>>> On 14/01/25 16:54, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Jan 14, 2025 at 11:26:25AM +0530, Aradhya Bhatia wrote:
>>>>>> Move the bridge pre_enable call before crtc enable, and the bridge
>>>>>> post_disable call after the crtc disable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sequence of enable after this patch will look like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	bridge[n]_pre_enable
>>>>>> 	...
>>>>>> 	bridge[1]_pre_enable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	crtc_enable
>>>>>> 	encoder_enable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	bridge[1]_enable
>>>>>> 	...
>>>>>> 	bridge[n]_enable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And, the disable sequence for the display pipeline will look like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	bridge[n]_disable
>>>>>> 	...
>>>>>> 	bridge[1]_disable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	encoder_disable
>>>>>> 	crtc_disable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	bridge[1]_post_disable
>>>>>> 	...
>>>>>> 	bridge[n]_post_disable
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The definition of bridge pre_enable hook says that,
>>>>>> "The display pipe (i.e. clocks and timing signals) feeding this bridge
>>>>>> will not yet be running when this callback is called".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since CRTC is also a source feeding the bridge, it should not be enabled
>>>>>> before the bridges in the pipeline are pre_enabled. Fix that by
>>>>>> re-ordering the sequence of bridge pre_enable and bridge post_disable.
>>>>>
>>>>> The patch contains both refactoring of the corresponding functions and
>>>>> changing of the order. Please split it into two separate commits.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume that you already understand this, so this is just for the
>>>> record -
>>>>
>>>> There is no trivial way to do this. Initially, this is what I had in my
>>>> mind - about what the split patches would look like.
>>>>
>>>> #1
>>>>  * refactoring of entire loops into separate functions.
>>>>  * Separate out the pre_enable and enable operations inside the
>>>>    encoder_bridge_enable().
>>>>  * call them in their (seemingly) original sequences
>>>> 	- crtc_enable
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable(pre_enable)
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable(!pre_enable)
>>>>
>>>> #2
>>>>  * rearrange the calls to re-order the operation
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable(pre_enable)
>>>> 	- crtc_enable
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable(!pre_enable)
>>>>
>>>> This would have made the patch#2 seem quite trivial, as patch#1 would
>>>> take the brunt of changes, while keeping the functionality intact.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What I have now realized is that, the above isn't possible,
>>>> unfortunately. The moment we separate out pre_enable and enable into 2
>>>> different calls, the overall sequence gets even changed when there are
>>>> multiple pipelines in the system.
>>>>
>>>> So to implement the split properly, the first patch would look like this
>>>>
>>>> #1
>>>>  * refactoring of entire loops into separate functions.
>>>>  * The calling sequences will be as follows -
>>>>  	- crtc_enable()
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable()
>>>> 		- this will do both pre_enable and enable
>>>> 		  unconditionally.
>>>>
>>>> The pre_enable and enable operations wouldn't be separated in patch 1,
>>>> just that the crtc enable and encoder bridge pre_enable/enable loops
>>>> would be put into individual functions.
>>>>
>>>> The next patch will then introduce booleans, and separate out pre_enable
>>>> and enable, and implement the new order -
>>>>
>>>> #2
>>>>  * pre_enable and enable operations will be conditionally segregated
>>>>    inside encoder_bridge_enable(), based on the pre_enable boolean.
>>>>  * The calling sequences will then be updated to -
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable(pre_enable)
>>>> 	- crtc_enable()
>>>> 	- encoder_bridge_enable(!pre_enable)
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd say slightly differently:
>>>
>>> #1 Refactor loops into separate functions:
>>>   - crtc_enable()
>>>   - encoder_bridge_enable(), loops over encoders and calls
>>>     pre_enable(bridges), enable(encoder), enable(bridges)
>>>
>>> #2 Split loops into separate functions:
>>>   - crtc_enable()
>>>   - encoder_bridge_pre_enable(), loops over encoders and calls
>>>     pre_enable(bridges),
>>>   - encoder_bridge_enable(), loops over encoders and calls
>>>     enable(encoder), enable(bridges)
>>>
>>
>> When we consider setups with multiple independent displays, there are
>> often multiple crtcs in the system, each with their own encoder-bridge
>> chain.
>>
>> In such a scenario, the sequence of crtc/encoder/bridge enable calls
>> after the #2 that you suggested, will not the remain same as that after
>> #1 (which is the _original_ sequence of calls).
> 
> Yes. The order of ops between display has changed, but each display is
> still programmed in exactly the same way as before.

Yes, that's right. Sequence for each display will remain the same as
before.

> 
>>
>> Do we still require #2 as an intermediate step between the original
>> sequence, and the intended new sequence? Wouldn't having the sequence
>> change in 2 half-steps add to the confusion (should some driver break
>> due to either of the refactorings)?
> 
> That's the point. Having two refactorings in one commit makes it harder
> to understand, which one broke the driver. Having two separate commits
> allows users to revert the latter commit and check what caused the
> issue.

Right. It's easier to debug each display independently in multi-display
setups, and I can now understand how #2 will be able to help.

This explanation helped a lot. Thank you!

>>
>>> #3 Move crtc_enable() calls:
>>>   - encoder_bridge_pre_enable(), loops over encoders and calls
>>>     pre_enable(bridges),
>>>   - crtc_enable()
>>>   - encoder_bridge_enable(), loops over encoders and calls
>>>     enable(encoder), enable(bridges)
>>>
>>> You might use enum or booleans to implement encoder_bridge_pre_enable(),
>>> or just keep it as a completely separate function (might be a better
>>> option).
>>
>> Yeah, I suppose a separate function may be better. There will, however,
>> be some code duplication when we loop over the encoder twice, once for
>> pre_enable(bridge) and the other for enable(encoder) and enable(bridge).
>>
>> I hope that will be acceptable?
> 
> I'd prefer two separate functions, but I won't insist on that.

Alright!

I have my work cut out for me for the next revision.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> The reason why I'm suggesting it is pretty easy: your patch performs two
>>> refactorings at the same time. If one of the drivers breaks, we have no
>>> way to identify, which of the refactorings caused the break.>
>>>>
>>>> This wouldn't be all that much trivial as I had imagined it to be earlier.
>>>>
>>>> It would also *kind of* like these patches in a previous revision,
>>>> v5:11/13 [0], and v5:12/13 [1]. The only differences being,
>>>>
>>>> 1) these older patches separated out only the bridge/encoder operations
>>>> into a function, and not the crtc operations, and
>>>>
>>>> 2) An enum is being used instead of the booleans.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I believe this is what you are looking for? If I have misunderstood
>>>> something, do let me know.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Aradhya
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0]: v5:11/13
>>>> drm/atomic-helper: Separate out Encoder-Bridge enable and disable
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241019200530.270738-4-aradhya.bhatia@xxxxxxxxx/
>>>>
>>>> [1]: v5:12/13
>>>> drm/atomic-helper: Re-order bridge chain pre-enable and post-disable
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241019200530.270738-5-aradhya.bhatia@xxxxxxxxx/
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Aradhya
>>
> 

--
Regards
Aradhya




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