Am 30.07.24 um 10:46 schrieb Huan Yang:
在 2024/7/30 16:37, Christian König 写道:Am 30.07.24 um 10:14 schrieb Huan Yang:在 2024/7/30 16:03, Christian König 写道:Can you provide a detailed explanation as to why this assumption is incorrect? thanks.Am 30.07.24 um 09:57 schrieb Huan Yang:Background ==== Some user may need load file into dma-buf, current way is: 1. allocate a dma-buf, get dma-buf fd 2. mmap dma-buf fd into user vaddr 3. read(file_fd, vaddr, fsz) Due to dma-buf user map can't support direct I/O[1], the file read must be buffer I/O. This means that during the process of reading the file into dma-buf,page cache needs to be generated, and the corresponding content needs tobe first copied to the page cache before being copied to the dma-buf. This way worked well when reading relatively small files before, asthe page cache can cache the file content, thus improving performance.However, there are new challenges currently, especially as AI models arebecoming larger and need to be shared between DMA devices and the CPU via dma-buf. For example, our 7B model file size is around 3.4GB. Using the previous would mean generating a total of 3.4GB of page cache(even if it will be reclaimed), and also requiring the copying of 3.4GBof content between page cache and dma-buf.Due to the limited resources of system memory, files in the gigabyte range cannot persist in memory indefinitely, so this portion of page cache maynot provide much assistance for subsequent reads. Additionally, theexistence of page cache will consume additional system resources due tothe extra copying required by the CPU. Therefore, I think it is necessary for dma-buf to support direct I/O. However, direct I/O file reads cannot be performed using the buffer mmaped by the user space for the dma-buf.[1] Here are some discussions on implementing direct I/O using dma-buf: mmap[1] --- dma-buf never support user map vaddr use of direct I/O. udmabuf[2] --- Currently, udmabuf can use the memfd method to read files into dma-buf in direct I/O mode.However, if the size is large, the current udmabuf needs to adjust thecorresponding size_limit(default 64MB).But using udmabuf for files at the 3GB level is not a very good approach. It needs to make some adjustments internally to handle this.[3] Or else,fail create.But, it is indeed a viable way to enable dma-buf to support direct I/O. However, it is necessary to initiate the file read after the memory allocationis completed, and handle race conditions carefully. sendfile/splice[4] ---Another way to enable dma-buf to support direct I/O is by implementing splice_write/write_iter in the dma-buf file operations (fops) to adaptto the sendfile method.However, the current sendfile/splice calls are based on pipe. When using direct I/O to read a file, the content needs to be copied to the bufferallocated by the pipe (default 64KB), and then the dma-buf fops'splice_write needs to be called to write the content into the dma-buf.This approach requires serially reading the content of file pipe size into the pipe buffer and then waiting for the dma-buf to be written before reading the next one.(The I/O performance is relatively weak under direct I/O.) Moreover, due to the existence of the pipe buffer, even when using direct I/O and not needing to generate additional page cache, there still needs to be a CPU copy. copy_file_range[5] ---Consider of copy_file_range, It only supports copying files within thesame file system. Similarly, it is not very practical. So, currently, there is no particularly suitable solution on VFS to allow dma-buf to support direct I/O for large file reads.This patchset provides an idea to complete file reads when requesting adma-buf. Introduce DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ_FILE heap flag ===This patch provides a method to immediately read the file content after the dma-buf is allocated, and only returns the dma-buf file descriptorafter the file is fully read.Since the dma-buf file descriptor is not returned, no other thread can access it except for the current thread, so we don't need to worry aboutrace conditions.That is a completely false assumption.File descriptors can be guessed and is available to userspace as soon as dma_buf_fd() is called.What could potentially work is to call system_heap_allocate() without calling dma_buf_fd(), but I'm not sure if you can then make I/O to the underlying pages.Actually, the dma-buf file descriptor is obtained only after a successful file read in the code, so there is no issue.If you are interested, you can take a look at the dma_heap_buffer_alloc_and_read function in patch1.In this patchset, I have provided performance comparisons of each of these methods. Can you please provide more opinions?Map the dma-buf to the vmalloc area and initiate file reads in kernel space, supporting both buffer I/O and direct I/O. This patch adds the DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ heap_flag for user. When a user needs to allocate a dma-buf and read a file, they shouldpass this heap flag. As the size of the file being read is fixed, there is no need to pass the 'len' parameter. Instead, The file_fd needs to be passed toindicate to the kernel the file that needs to be read. The file open flag determines the mode of file reading.But, please note that if direct I/O(O_DIRECT) is needed to read the file,the file size must be page aligned. (with patch 2-5, no need) Therefore, for the user, len and file_fd are mutually exclusive, and they are combined using a union.Once the user obtains the dma-buf fd, the dma-buf directly contains thefile content.And I'm repeating myself, but this is a complete NAK from my side to this approach.We pointed out multiple ways of how to implement this cleanly and not by hacking functionality into the kernel which absolutely doesn't belong there.Either drop the whole approach or change udmabuf to do what you want to do.OK, if so, do I need to send a patch to make dma-buf support sendfile?
Well the udmabuf approach doesn't need to use sendfile, so no. Regards, Christian.
Apart from that I don't see a doable way which can be accepted into the kernel.Thanks for your suggestion.Regards, Christian.Regards, Christian.Patch 1 implement it. Patch 2-5 provides an approach for performance improvement. The DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ_FILE heap flag patch enables us to synchronously read files using direct I/O. This approach helps to save CPU copying and avoid a certain degree of memory thrashing (page cache generation and reclamation)When dealing with large file sizes, the benefits of this approach becomeparticularly significant.However, there are currently some methods that can improve performance,not just save system resources:Due to the large file size, for example, a AI 7B model of around 3.4GB, the time taken to allocate DMA-BUF memory will be relatively long. Waiting for the allocation to complete before reading the file will add to theoverall time consumption. Therefore, the total time for DMA-BUF allocation and file read can be calculated using the formula T(total) = T(alloc) + T(I/O) However, if we change our approach, we don't necessarily need to waitfor the DMA-BUF allocation to complete before initiating I/O. In fact,during the allocation process, we already hold a portion of the page, which means that waiting for subsequent page allocations to completebefore carrying out file reads is actually unfair to the pages that havealready been allocated. The allocation of pages is sequential, and the reading of the file is also sequential, with the content and size corresponding to the file. This means that the memory location for each page, which holds the content of a specific position in the file, can be determined at the time of allocation. However, to fully leverage I/O performance, it is best to wait and gather a certain number of pages before initiating batch processing.The default gather size is 128MB. So, ever gathered can see as a file read work, it maps the gather page to the vmalloc area to obtain a continuous virtual address, which is used as a buffer to store the contents of thecorresponding file. So, if using direct I/O to read a file, the filecontent will be written directly to the corresponding dma-buf buffer memorywithout any additional copying.(compare to pipe buffer.)Consider other ways to read into dma-buf. If we assume reading after mmapdma-buf, we need to map the pages of the dma-buf to the user virtual address space. Also, udmabuf memfd need do this operations too. Even if we support sendfile, the file copy also need buffer, you must setup it. So, mapping pages to the vmalloc area does not incur any additional performance overhead compared to other methods.[6]Certainly, the administrator can also modify the gather size through patch5.The formula for the time taken for system_heap buffer allocation and file reading through async_read is as follows: T(total) = T(first gather page) + Max(T(remain alloc), T(I/O)) Compared to the synchronous read: T(total) = T(alloc) + T(I/O)If the allocation time or I/O time is long, the time difference will be covered by the maximum value between the allocation and I/O. The otherparty will be concealed. Therefore, the larger the size of the file that needs to be read, the greater the corresponding benefits will be. How to use === Consider the current pathway for loading model files into DMA-BUF: 1. open dma-heap, get heap fd 2. open file, get file_fd(can't use O_DIRECT) 3. use file len to allocate dma-buf, get dma-buf fd 4. mmap dma-buf fd, get vaddr 5. read(file_fd, vaddr, file_size) into dma-buf pages 6. share, attach, whatever you want Use DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ_FILE JUST a little change: 1. open dma-heap, get heap fd 2. open file, get file_fd(buffer/direct)3. allocate dma-buf with DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ_FILE heap flag, set file_fdinstead of len. get dma-buf fd(contains file content) 4. share, attach, whatever you want So, test it is easy. How to test ===The performance comparison will be conducted for the following scenarios:1. normal 2. udmabuf with [3] patch 3. sendfile 4. only patch 1 5. patch1 - patch4. normal: 1. open dma-heap, get heap fd 2. open file, get file_fd(can't use O_DIRECT) 3. use file len to allocate dma-buf, get dma-buf fd 4. mmap dma-buf fd, get vaddr 5. read(file_fd, vaddr, file_size) into dma-buf pages 6. share, attach, whatever you want UDMA-BUF step: 1. memfd_create 2. open file(buffer/direct) 3. udmabuf create 4. mmap memfd 5. read file into memfd vaddrSendfile step(need suit splice_write/write_iter, just use to compare):1. open dma-heap, get heap fd 2. open file, get file_fd(buffer/direct) 3. use file len to allocate dma-buf, get dma-buf fd 4. sendfile file_fd to dma-buf fd 6. share, attach, whatever you want patch1/patch1-4: 1. open dma-heap, get heap fd 2. open file, get file_fd(buffer/direct)3. allocate dma-buf with DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ_FILE heap flag, set file_fdinstead of len. get dma-buf fd(contains file content) 4. share, attach, whatever you wantYou can create a file to test it. Compare the performance gap between the two. It is best to compare the differences in file size from KB to MB to GB.The following test data will compare the performance differences between 512KB,8MB, 1GB, and 3GB under various scenarios. Performance Test === 12G RAM phone UFS4.0(the maximum speed is 4GB/s. ), f2fskernel 6.1 with patch[7] (or else, can't support kvec direct I/O read.)no memory pressure. drop_cache is used for each test. The average of 5 test results:| scheme-size | 512KB(ns) | 8MB(ns) | 1GB(ns) | 3GB(ns) | | ------------------- | ---------- | ---------- | ------------- | ------------- | | normal | 2,790,861 | 14,535,784 | 1,520,790,492 | 3,332,438,754 | | udmabuf buffer I/O | 1,704,046 | 11,313,476 | 821,348,000 | 2,108,419,923 | | sendfile buffer I/O | 3,261,261 | 12,112,292 | 1,565,939,938 | 3,062,052,984 | | patch1-4 buffer I/O | 2,064,538 | 10,771,474 | 986,338,800 | 2,187,570,861 | | sendfile direct I/O | 12,844,231 | 37,883,938 | 5,110,299,184 | 9,777,661,077 | | patch1 direct I/O | 813,215 | 6,962,092 | 2,364,211,877 | 5,648,897,554 | | udmabuf direct I/O | 1,289,554 | 8,968,138 | 921,480,784 | 2,158,305,738 | | patch1-4 direct I/O | 1,957,661 | 6,581,999 | 520,003,538 | 1,400,006,107 |With this test, sendfile can't give a good help base on pipe buffer.udmabuf is good, but I think our oem driver can't suit it. (And, AOSP do not open this feature)Anyway, I am sending this patchset in the hope of further discussion. Thanks.So, based on the test results: When the file is large, the patchset has the highest performance. Compared to normal, patchset is a 50% improvement; Compared to normal, patch1 only showed a degradation of 41%. patch1 typical performance breakdown is as follows: 1. alloc cost 188,802,693 ns 2. vmap cost 42,491,385 ns 3. file read cost 4,180,876,702 nsTherefore, directly performing a single direct I/O read on a large filemay not be the most optimal way for performance.The performance of direct I/O implemented by the sendfile method is the worst.When file size is small, The difference in performance is not significant. This is consistent with expectations. Suggested use cases ===1. When there is a need to read large files and system resources are scarce, especially when the size of memory is limited.(GB level) In this scenario, using direct I/O for file reading can even bring performanceimprovements.(may need patch2-3)2. For embedded devices with limited RAM, using direct I/O can save system resources and avoid unnecessary data copying. Therefore, even if theperformance is lower when read small file, it can still be used effectively.3. If there is sufficient memory, pinning the page cache of the model files in memory and placing file in the EROFS file system for read-only accessmaybe better.(EROFS do not support direct I/O) Changlog === v1 [8] v1->v2:Uses the heap flag method for alloc and read instead of adding a newDMA-buf ioctl command. [9] Split the patchset to facilitate review and test. patch 1 implement alloc and read, offer heap flag into it. patch 2-4 offer async read patch 5 can change gather limit. Reference ===[1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/0393cf47-3fa2-4e32-8b3d-d5d5bdece298@xxxxxxx/[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZpTnzkdolpEwFbtu@phenom.ffwll.local/[3] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240725021349.580574-1-link@xxxxxxxx/[4] https://lore.kernel.org/all/Zpf5R7fRZZmEwVuR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/ [5] https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZpiHKY2pGiBuEq4z@xxxxxxxxxxxxx/[6] https://lore.kernel.org/all/9b70db2e-e562-4771-be6b-1fa8df19e356@xxxxxxx/ [7] https://patchew.org/linux/20230209102954.528942-1-dhowells@xxxxxxxxxx/20230209102954.528942-7-dhowells@xxxxxxxxxx/ [8] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20240711074221.459589-1-link@xxxxxxxx/ [9] https://lore.kernel.org/all/5ccbe705-883c-4651-9e66-6b452c414c74@xxxxxxx/Huan Yang (5): dma-buf: heaps: Introduce DMA_HEAP_ALLOC_AND_READ_FILE heap flag dma-buf: heaps: Introduce async alloc read ops dma-buf: heaps: support alloc async read file dma-buf: heaps: system_heap alloc support async read dma-buf: heaps: configurable async read gather limitdrivers/dma-buf/dma-heap.c | 552 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++-drivers/dma-buf/heaps/system_heap.c | 70 +++- include/linux/dma-heap.h | 53 ++- include/uapi/linux/dma-heap.h | 11 +- 4 files changed, 673 insertions(+), 13 deletions(-) base-commit: 931a3b3bccc96e7708c82b30b2b5fa82dfd04890
