On Fri, Jul 5, 2024 at 3:36 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 04, 2024 at 08:40:26AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 7:08 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 02, 2024 at 05:32:39AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 10:44 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 27, 2024 at 11:51:37AM -0700, Rob Clark wrote: > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 10:47 AM Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:38:30AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 09:32:44AM GMT, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 10:25:25AM -0300, Helen Koike wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 24/06/2024 02:34, Vignesh Raman wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 15/03/24 22:50, Rob Clark wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Basically, I often find myself needing to merge CI patches on top of > > > > > > > > > > > > msm-next in order to run CI, and then after a clean CI run, reset HEAD > > > > > > > > > > > > back before the merge and force-push. Which isn't really how things > > > > > > > > > > > > should work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This sounds more like you want an integration tree like drm-tip. Get msm > > > > > > > > > branches integrated there, done. Backmerges just for integration testing > > > > > > > > > are not a good idea indeed. > > > > > > > > > > > > But AFAIU this doesn't help for pre-merge testing, ie. prior to a > > > > > > patch landing in msm-next > > > > > > > > > > > > My idea was to have a drm-ci-next managed similar to drm-misc-next, if > > > > > > we have needed drm/ci patches we could push them to drm-ci-next, and > > > > > > then merge that into the driver tree (along with a PR from drm-ci-next > > > > > > to Dave). > > > > > > > > > > I guess I'm confused about what kind of pre-merge testing we're talking > > > > > about then ... Or maybe this just doesn't work too well with the linux > > > > > kernel. The model is that you have some pile of trees, they're split up, > > > > > and testing of all the trees together is done in integration trees like > > > > > linux-next or drm-tip. > > > > > > > > pre-merge: for msm we've been collecting up patches from list into a > > > > fast-forward MR which triggers CI before merging to msm-next/msm-fixes > > > > > > > > Ideally drm-misc and other trees would do similar, we'd catch more > > > > regressions that way. For example, in msm-next the nodebugfs build is > > > > currently broken, because we merged drm-misc-next at a time when > > > > komeda was broken: > > > > > > > > https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/msm/-/jobs/60575681#L9520 > > > > > > > > If drm-misc was using pre-merge CI this would have been caught and the > > > > offending patch dropped. > > > > > > That sounds more like we should push on the drm-misc pre-merge CI boulder > > > to move it uphill, than add even more trees to make it even harder to get > > > there long term ... > > > > > > Short term it helps locally to have finer trees, but only short term and > > > only very locally. > > > > The path to have fewer trees (ideally only one for all of drm) is to > > use gitlab MRs to land everything :-) > > > > drm-ci-next is only a stop-gap.. but one that we need. The > > ${branchname}-external-fixes trick covers _most_ cases where we need > > unrelated patches (ie. to fix random ToT breakage outside of drm or in > > core drm), but it doesn't help when the needed changes are yml > > (because gitlab processes all the yml before merging the > > -external-fixes branch). This is where we need drm-ci-next, otherwise > > we are having to create a separate MR which cherry-picks drm/ci > > patches for doing the CI. This is a rather broken process. > > So what I don't get is ... if we CI drm-misc, how does that not help > improve the situation here? Step one would be post-merge (i.e. just enable > CI in the repo), then get MRs going. I guess post-merge is better than nothing.. but pre-merge is better. post-merge can work if you have a "sheriff" system where someone (perhaps on a rotation) is actively monitoring results and "revert and ask questions later" when something breaks. Pre-merge ensures the interested party is involved in the process ;-) BR, -R > > I could conceivably see a scenario where we are landing both drm/ci > > and drm/msm changes via the same tree. But only if we were using > > gitlab MRs and CI for landing all changes in that tree. > > Yeah that's kinda the world I'm hoping for. > -Sima > -- > Daniel Vetter > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation > http://blog.ffwll.ch