Re: [PATCH v5 2/9] scatterlist: Add a flag for the restricted memory

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Am 27.06.24 um 05:17 schrieb Jason-JH Lin (林睿祥):

On Wed, 2024-06-26 at 12:49 +0200, Christian König wrote:
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> Am 26.06.24 um 10:05 schrieb Jason-JH Lin (林睿祥):
> > > 
> > > > In the step 3), we need to verify the dma-buf is allocated from
> > > > "restricted_mtk_cma", but there is no way to pass the
> >  secure flag
> > > >  or
> > > > private data from userspace to the import interface in DRM
> > driver.
> > >  
> > > Why do you need to verify that?
> > 
> > I need to know the imported buffer is allocated from restricted cma
> > and
> > mark it as a secure buffer in mediatek-drm driver. Then, I will add
> > some configuration to the hardware if the buffer is secure buffer,
> > so
> > that it can get the permission to access the secure buffer.
>  
> Yeah so far that makes sense. This is basically what other drivers do
> with secure buffers as well.
> 
> But why do you want the kernel to transport that information? Usually
> drivers get the information from userspace what to do with a buffer.
> 
> In other words the format, stride, tilling and also if it's a secure
> buffer or not comes from userspace.
> 

Thanks for your clear explanation.
I think this is what I want, but I can't find any DRM interface to pass
the secure flag from userspace.

Well stuff like that is usually device driver specific.

So you should probably use something device specific which tells the driver that this buffer is encrypted.

> What the hardware usually handles internally is things like
> encryption keys, but you eventually get the information where to look
> for the key from userspace as well.
> 
> Handling inside the kernel would only be necessary if userspace could
> for example crash the system with invalid parameters. But for
> encryption that is usually not the case.
> 

Yes, that's true.

> > > 
> > > > So I can only verify it like this now:
> > > > struct drm_gem_object *mtk_gem_prime_import_sg_table(struct
> > > > drm_device
> > > > *dev, struct dma_buf_attachment *attach, struct sg_table *sg)
> > > > {
> > > >     struct mtk_gem_obj *mtk_gem;
> > > > 
> > > >     /* check if the entries in the sg_table are contiguous */
> > > >     if (drm_prime_get_contiguous_size(sg) <
> >  attach->dmabuf->size) {
> > > >         DRM_ERROR("sg_table is not contiguous");
> > > >         return ERR_PTR(-EINVAL);
> > > >     }
> > > >     mtk_gem = mtk_gem_init(dev, attach->dmabuf->size);
> > > >     if (IS_ERR(mtk_gem))
> > > >         return ERR_CAST(mtk_gem);
> > > > 
> > > > +   mtk_gem->secure = (!strncmp(attach->dmabuf->exp_name,
> > > >  "restricted",
> > > > 10));
> > > >     mtk_gem->dma_addr = sg_dma_address(sg->sgl);
> > > >     mtk_gem->size = attach->dmabuf->size;
> > > >     mtk_gem->sg = sg;
> > > > 
> > > >     return &mtk_gem->base;
> > > > }
> > >  
> > > Complete NAK from my side to that approach. Importing of a DMA-
> > buf
> > > should be independent of the exporter.
> > > 
> > > What you could do is to provide the secure buffer from a device
> > and
> > > not a device heap.
> > > 
> > 
> > You mean I should allocate buffer in mediate-drm driver not
> > userspace?
>  
> Well that depends. The question is if you have multiple drivers which
> needs to work with this secure buffer?
> 
> If yes then you should have a general allocation heap for it. If no
> then the buffers could as well be allocated from the driver interface
> directly.
> 

Yes, this buffer needs work with GPU and DRM drivers, so this general
"restricted_mtk_cma" will allocated in userspace, then being passed to
GPU and DRM.

Well do you really need a separate heap for that? In other words is only a certain part of the system memory capable of being encrypted?

Or would the "normal" CMA heap do as well and you only need to setup your hardware properly for encryption?

Additional to that in most other drivers buffer sharing and encryption are two separate things. In other words other drivers do something like this:

1. Allocate the buffer.
2. Import the buffer using DRM_IOCTL_PRIME_FD_TO_HANDLE.
3. Set additional buffer properties, e.g. format, stride, tilling, if it's secure, which encryption key to use, where to map etc...

So as far as I can see the problem you are facing is that you try to mangle everything into DRM_IOCTL_PRIME_FD_TO_HANDLE. Why not make that a separate IOCTL?

I mean we intentionally don't provide things like format, stride, tilling etc.. to DRM_IOCTL_PRIME_FD_TO_HANDLE. Encryption is just another of those parameters.

Regards,
Christian.


> > I just have modified this to userspace by the comment here:
> > 
> > 
https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-mediatek/patch/20240403102701.369-3-shawn.sung@xxxxxxxxxxxx/#25806766
> > 
> > > > I think I have the same problem as the ECC_FLAG mention in:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-media/20240515-dma-buf-ecc-heap-v1-0-54cbbd049511@xxxxxxxxxx/
> > > > 
> > > > I think it would be better to have the user configurable
> > private
> > > > information in dma-buf, so all the drivers who have the same
> > > > requirement can get their private information from dma-buf
> >  directly
> > > > and
> > > > no need to change or add the interface.
> > > > 
> > > > What's your opinion in this point?
> > >  
> > > Well of hand I don't see the need for that.
> > > 
> > > What happens if you get a non-secure buffer imported in your
> > secure
> > > device?
> > 
> > We use the same mediatek-drm driver for secure and non-secure
> > buffer.
> > If non-secure buffer imported to mediatek-drm driver, it's go to
> > the
> > normal flow with normal hardware settings.
> > 
> > We use different configurations to make hardware have different
> > permission to access the buffer it should access.
> > 
> > So if we can't get the information of "the buffer is allocated from
> > restricted_mtk_cma" when importing the buffer into the driver, we
> > won't
> > be able to configure the hardware correctly.
>  
> Why can't you get this information from userspace?

As I mentioned here: 

https://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-mediatek/cover/20240525232928.5524-1-jason-jh.lin@xxxxxxxxxxxx/#25886488

I tried some DRM interfaces using buffer FD and arg->flag as
parameters, but it didn't work. So I ask for your help here.

But I think I should find DRM maintainer to add the secure flag to DRM
interface now.

Regards,
Jason-JH.Lin

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