Hi Marek, Am Mittwoch, 5. Juni 2024, 18:25:13 CEST schrieb Marek Vasut: > On 6/5/24 12:52 PM, Alexander Stein wrote: > > Hi Marek, > > Hi, > > [snip] > > Ah, right. That seems simple. But I noticed another thing: > > The TC9595 PLL is configured to 147333333 while the lcdif configures > > the display clock to 147333000, the value actually stored in > > adjusted_mode.clock. I do not know if this small difference can be neglected. > > Good point, please see (*) below. > > >>> No, sorry. I'm not sure about those VFIFO overruns/underruns you mentioned > >>> in the commit message. Does this maybe only apply to DPI input? > >> > >> No, this actually happens with DSI input in both DPI and (e)DP output > >> modes, it is only really well visible in some resolutions it seems. > > > > Ah, i see. > > > >>> At least for 148.5MHz (1080p) apparently it is not possible to that > >>> exact clock anyway. > >> > >> Right, which sucks, but the TC9595 datasheet explicitly states that the > >> FRMSYNC mode should always be enabled (and is apparently force-enabled > >> on newer bridge chips with no option to disable it) unless the Pixel > >> clock are sourced from DSI clock (which is never the case with this > >> driver). That's what the [1] patch does. > >> > >> But messing with the HFP isn't really working for all resolutions, so > >> this patch instead adjusts the input pixel clock to fit the Pixel PLL > >> limits, which avoids the VFIFO issues altogether. And that makes the > >> FRMSYNC mode work for all kinds of resolutions. > > > > I can't tell if VFIFO issue arise here, because I'm currently trying to > > get a reliable and stable output for DP. > > What kind of problem do you observe on your side exactly ? (I think the > answer to this is at the end). I've spent quite a while on this, so > maybe I ran into that before. DP output either works as expected or not at all. The monitor stays in sleep mode then. I only notice that VFUEN is not cleared in this case. > > The documentation is somewhat > > limited, but FRAMSYNC seems almost necessary in any case, unless you > > utilize DSI bus 100% for this device to get the correct display timings > > using DSI packets. > > That's not quite what it says. > > I don't know what kind of datasheet you have and for which exact bridge, > but look at Section 4, block diagram. I have the datasheet 0.1 and 1.1 for TC9595 available. Also the TC358767A_867XBG v37 spreadsheet. > The FRMSYNC operates on the LS_Clk domain side, right of V_FiFo . It > reads lines from the VFIFO and sends them out of the DP as DP packets. > As long as the input into the VFIFO delivers the lines such that the > VFIFO does not overflow or underflow, everything is fine. > > The DSI side starts to write line into the VFIFO on HSS (Hsync start), > see "DSI Packets for Video Transmission". HSE (Hsync end) packet is > ignored, see "Video Transmission" . Two consecutive HSS must be sent > with the same time between the two as time between two lines configured > into FRMSYNC timing generator. > > However, I _think_ (*) if the time between two HSS is slightly longer > than what the FRMSYNC expects, the FRMSYNC stretches the HFP slightly > for each frame and we won't run into any problems (see 4.12 Clocks and > search for keyword "approximated", they talk about close approximation > there). Which datasheet do you have available? It might just be a typo, but the Clocks section is 4.13 in my case. > >> You might be wondering why not source pixel clock from DSI HS clock and > >> disable FRMSYNC. For one thing, this would limit the ability to pick > >> faster DSI HS clock and make good use of the DSI burst mode (the DSI > >> link can go into LP state after transmitting entire line of pixel data > >> for longer with faster DSI HS clock). The other thing is, to drive the > >> Pixel PLL (not to be confused with pixel clock) from DSI HS clock, the > >> DSI HS clock have to be set to specific clock rates (13*4*7=364 MHz and > >> 13*4*9=468 MHz), which is really limiting. > > btw. those 13 MHz match one of RefClk input options, the *4 is from > HSBY4 divider and 7 and 9 come from MODE[1] strap option dividers. > > > This is not mentioned in the datasheet at all, but just in a small note > > in the calculation sheet, without any description. On a different platform > > DSI HS clock running at 445.5MHz seems also possible, even if unsupported. > > You can use arbitrary DSI HS clock as long as you don't derive RefClk > from DSI HS clock (and RefClk feeds Pixel PLL). Yes, that's what I would expect as well, but that other platform was configured to derive RefClk from DSI/4. > >>>>> BTW: Which platform are you testing on? > >>>> > >>>> MX8MP with LCDIFv3 -> DSIM -> TC9595 -> DP output. > >>>> > >>>> The TC9595 is 2nd generation (automotive?) replacement for TC358767 (1st > >>>> generation replacement is TC358867) . > >>> > >>> Same here. But fail to get output on a DP monitor if I'm running from > >>> external refclk. Using DSICLK/4 seems necessary for some reason, but it > >>> is very unreliable to get a proper image. > >> > >> Do you have all the patches in place ? This is what you should have: > >> > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Enable FRMSYNC timing generator > >> drm: bridge: samsung-dsim: Initialize bridge on attach > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Reset chip again on attach > >> clk: imx: clk-imx8mp: Allow media_disp pixel clock reconfigure parent rate > >> drm: lcdif: Use adjusted_mode .clock instead of .crtc_clock > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Fix comment in tc_edp_mode_valid > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Check if fully initialized before signalling HPD > >> event via IRQ > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Split tc_pxl_pll_en() into parameter calculation > >> and enablement > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Use tc_pxl_pll_calc() to correct adjusted_mode clock > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Drop line_pixel_subtract > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Disable MIPI_DSI_CLOCK_NON_CONTINUOUS > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Set LSCLK divider for SYSCLK to 1 > >> Revert "drm/bridge: tc358767: Set default CLRSIPO count" > >> drm/bridge: tc358767: Add configurable default preemphasis > > > > Thanks, I was missing the lcdif and clk-imx8mp patches. I saw them separately > > on the mailing list, but didn't realize would need them. > > > >> I only use external refclk, at 26 MHz. > > > > Same for me, difference is I'm using a crystal oscillator instead of > > CCM_CLKOUT. And yes, this is the TQ platform TQMa8MPxL/MBa8MPxL. > > I also have a SoM modified to use Xtal, but it seems unnecessary, the > CCM output saves on BoM too. That's right, but Xtal is what I have right now. A modification for CCM_CLKOUT wouldbe possible if clock drift is an issue here. > [...] > > > Thanks for sharing, despite the fixed-clock and IMX8MP_CLK_CLKOUT2 this > > looks very much the same. Unfortunately I get an output on DP just sometimes. > > As Bit 0 in register 0x464 is not cleared, I suspect the bridge is not > > recognizing DSI (VSYNC) packets properly :( > > At some point this bridge is lenient, but picky otherwise. > > You did strap the bridge such that it sources RefClk from the Xtal, > right (MODE[0] = 0 -> RefClk)? I haven't seen VFUEN[0] lock up like that > before. Yes, MODE[0] is pulled down. Otherwise I2C is not even possible. I've tried using MODE[0]=1 with a fixed DSI HS clock, but without luck. > You could try and force the bridge to generate test pattern instead of > DSI_RX, edit the tc358767.c -> locate tc_dsi_rx_enable() -> locate > tc_test_pattern -> make sure the branch option value |= > DP0_VIDSRC_COLOR_BAR is activated . Rebuild and retest . > > This will allow you to validate the TC358767<->DP connection separately > from the DSI<->TC358767 connection . This is what I did when I was > debugging DSI issues on another board with TC9595 . Once you are sure > one side of the connection is stable, you can focus on the other side. > > Also, with the COLOR_BAR mode in place, try experimenting with the DP > preemphasis tuning and possibly the initial differential voltage tuning > (it is in the same registers as the preemphasis). Maybe you have link > quality issues and the link is borderline, it does train and link up, > but fails right after. Increasing the preemphasis and differential > voltage might help stabilize it. Thanks, but as far I can tell I don't have any issues on the DP side. With command line parameter 'tc358767.test=1' in place I get that test pattern with 100% success rate. So I consider my problem on the DSI side only. As FVUEN is cleared at the next VSYNC event I suspect the DSI timings are (slightly) off, but unfortunately I don't have equipment to check DSI signal quality/timings. Are you running the DSIM host from 24MHz refclock? > Also, I use these to fiddle with the TC9595 (in my case) DP timing > registers, the first one reads them all out, the second one writes them. > Aadjust values as needed, the values below are from whatever experiment > so they are likely invalid. Make specific note of the last 0x01 on the > second line, that's the VFUEN update: > $ i2ctransfer -f -y 2 w2@0xf 0x4 0x50 r24 > $ i2ctransfer -f -y 2 w26@0xf 0x4 0x50 0x10 0x01 0x50 0x01 0x20 0x00 > 0x50 0x00 0x80 0x07 0x20 0x00 0x06 0x00 0x1a 0x00 0xb0 0x04 0x03 > 0x00 0x01 0x00 0x00 0x00 > > [...] Thanks I'll keep that at hand, if they might come handy. Best regards, Alexander -- TQ-Systems GmbH | Mühlstraße 2, Gut Delling | 82229 Seefeld, Germany Amtsgericht München, HRB 105018 Geschäftsführer: Detlef Schneider, Rüdiger Stahl, Stefan Schneider http://www.tq-group.com/