Hey all, I was trying to document the Colorspace property variants with what the sink expects, what kind of data the CRTC should be configured to produce, and what drivers must guarantee. I tried to stick to CTA-861-I for this exercise and after more than an hour to get the "Default" variant right, I gave up and now I'm writing this mail. There are actually 4 distinct parameters that have to be known: the colorimetry (primaries and white point), the transfer characteristics, the YCbCr conversion matrix and the quantization level. Section 5.1 has two paragraphs talking about the default color space (which should imply the rest of the parameters). For IT formats, and CE formats in some situations "the RGB color space used should be the RGB color space the Sink declares in the Basic Display Parameters and Features Block of its EDID". For sinks that accept YCbCr data and InfoFrames, CE formats default to other color spaces. They do support setting InfoFrames though and thus can set Y2=Y1=Y0=0 and force the sink into accepting RGB (Table 18) and set C1=C0=0 for Colorimetry RGB. Foote a helpfully notes that this is the colorimetry declared in the EDID. Now, the first obvious issue is that none of that defines the YCbCr matrix to be used. It is entirely undefined. If drivers use an YCbCr output format, user space gets undefined behavior. The second issue is the transfer characteristics. Section 5.3 defines the transfer characteristics when a specific color space is selected. If the colorimetry is RGB then the BT.709 transfer characteristics are used (and not the gamma from the EDID) whereas the default color space as defined in 5.1 seems to point to the EDID even for gamma. That would means depending on if we have an IT mode or a CE mode with a sink that supports YCbCr and InfoFrames, the default transfer characteristics could be different. User space would have to figure all of that out to know which transfer characteristics it should use. Is the spec just wrong here? There also is the "defaultRGB" colorimetry. This one actually clearly defines that the sink shall expect data with the colorimetry and gamma from the EDID. It seems to have been added in CTA-861-I so support for it is basically non-existent. So what should we do? To me it seems almost impossible to define anything useful for the "Default" property variant, but because the "defaultRGB" colorimetry is not supported at all right now, making "Default" undefined means we can't get predictable colors on almost all displays. Cheers, Sebastian
