Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] vc4: introduce DMA-BUF heap

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On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 03:42:38PM +0000, Dave Stevenson wrote:
> Hi Simon and Maxime
> 
> On Thu, 9 Nov 2023 at 09:12, Maxime Ripard <mripard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Simon,
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 09, 2023 at 07:45:58AM +0000, Simon Ser wrote:
> > > User-space sometimes needs to allocate scanout-capable memory for
> > > GPU rendering purposes. On a vc4/v3d split render/display SoC, this
> > > is achieved via DRM dumb buffers: the v3d user-space driver opens
> > > the primary vc4 node, allocates a DRM dumb buffer there, exports it
> > > as a DMA-BUF, imports it into the v3d render node, and renders to it.
> > >
> > > However, DRM dumb buffers are only meant for CPU rendering, they are
> > > not intended to be used for GPU rendering. Primary nodes should only
> > > be used for mode-setting purposes, other programs should not attempt
> > > to open it. Moreover, opening the primary node is already broken on
> > > some setups: systemd grants permission to open primary nodes to
> > > physically logged in users, but this breaks when the user is not
> > > physically logged in (e.g. headless setup) and when the distribution
> > > is using a different init (e.g. Alpine Linux uses openrc).
> > >
> > > We need an alternate way for v3d to allocate scanout-capable memory.
> > > Leverage DMA heaps for this purpose: expose a CMA heap to user-space.
> > > Preliminary testing has been done with wlroots [1].
> > >
> > > This is still an RFC. Open questions:
> > >
> > > - Does this approach make sense to y'all in general?
> >
> > Makes sense to me :)
> >
> > > - What would be a good name for the heap? "vc4" is maybe a bit naive and
> > >   not precise enough. Something with "cma"? Do we need to plan a naming
> > >   scheme to accomodate for multiple vc4 devices?
> >
> > That's a general issue though that happens with pretty much all devices
> > with a separate node for modesetting and rendering, so I don't think
> > addressing it only for vc4 make sense, we should make it generic.
> >
> > So maybe something like "scanout"?
> >
> > One thing we need to consider too is that the Pi5 will have multiple
> > display nodes (4(?) iirc) with different capabilities, vc4 being only
> > one of them. This will impact that solution too.
> 
> It does need to scale.
> 
> Pi5 adds 4 additional DRM devices (2xDSI, 1xDPI, and 1xComposite
> Video), and just this last week I've been running Wayfire with TinyDRM
> drivers for SPI displays and UDL (DisplayLink) outputs as well.
> Presumably all of those drivers need to have appropriate hooks added
> so they each expose a dma-heap to enable scanout buffers to be
> allocated.
> 
> Can we add another function pointer to the struct drm_driver (or
> similar) to do the allocation, and move the actual dmabuf handling
> code into the core?

Yeah, I agree here, it just seems easier to provide a global hook and a
somewhat sane default to cover all drivers in one go (potentially with
additional restrictions, like only for modeset-only drivers or
something).

Maxime

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