Re: [PATCH 16/16] drm/amd/display: Don't restrict bpc to 8 bpc

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On 12/15/22 18:33, Alex Deucher wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2022 at 4:17 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 14 Dec 2022 10:46:55 -0500
>> Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 14, 2022 at 4:01 AM Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 18:20:59 +0100
>>>> Michel Dänzer <michel.daenzer@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 12/12/22 19:21, Harry Wentland wrote:
>>>>>> This will let us pass kms_hdr.bpc_switch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see any good reasons why we still need to
>>>>>> limit bpc to 8 bpc and doing so is problematic when
>>>>>> we enable HDR.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I remember correctly there might have been some
>>>>>> displays out there where the advertised link bandwidth
>>>>>> was not large enough to drive the default timing at
>>>>>> max bpc. This would leave to an atomic commit/check
>>>>>> failure which should really be handled in compositors
>>>>>> with some sort of fallback mechanism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this somehow turns out to still be an issue I
>>>>>> suggest we add a module parameter to allow users to
>>>>>> limit the max_bpc to a desired value.
>>>>>
>>>>> While leaving the fallback for user space to handle makes some sense
>>>>> in theory, in practice most KMS display servers likely won't handle
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Another issue is that if mode validation is based on the maximum bpc
>>>>> value, it may reject modes which would work with lower bpc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What Ville (CC'd) suggested before instead (and what i915 seems to be
>>>>> doing already) is that the driver should do mode validation based on
>>>>> the *minimum* bpc, and automatically make the effective bpc lower
>>>>> than the maximum as needed to make the rest of the atomic state work.
>>>>
>>>> A driver is always allowed to choose a bpc lower than max_bpc, so it
>>>> very well should do so when necessary due to *known* hardware etc.
>>>> limitations.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In the amdgpu case, it's more of a preference thing.  The driver would
>>> enable higher bpcs at the expense of refresh rate and it seemed most
>>> users want higher refresh rates than higher bpc.
>>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> we already have userspace in explicit control of the refresh rate.
>> Userspace picks the refresh rate first, then the driver silently checks
>> what bpc is possible. Userspace preference wins, so bpc is chosen to
>> produce the desired refresh rate.
>>
>> In what cases does the driver really pick a refresh rate on its own?
> 
> It didn't, but IIRC, at the time the driver filtered out modes that it
> could not support with the max bpc.  It looks like that has been fixed
> now, so maybe this whole discussion is moot.

That depends on the answer to the follow-up question in my previous post.


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