Re: drm: document uAPI page-flip flags

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On Friday, August 26th, 2022 at 15:10, Sebastian Wick <sebastian.wick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 2:17 PM Simon Ser contact@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> > On Friday, August 26th, 2022 at 11:49, Sebastian Wick sebastian.wick@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > > > > +/*
> > > > > + * DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_ALLOW_MODESET
> > > > > + *
> > > > > + * Allow the update to result in visible artifacts such as a black screen.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe add:
> > > > 
> > > > ...temporary or transient visible artifacts while the update is
> > > > being applied. Applying the update may also take significantly
> > > > more time than a page flip. The visual artifacts will not
> > > > appear after the update is completed.
> > > > 
> > > > This flag must be set when the KMS update might cause visible
> > > > artifacts. Without this flag such KMS update will return EINVAL
> > > > error. What kind of updates may cause visible artifacts depends
> > > > on the driver and the hardware. Userspace that needs to know
> > > > beforehand if an update might cause visible artifacts can use
> > > > DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_TEST_ONLY without DRM_MODE_ATOMIC_ALLOW_MODESET
> > > > to see if it fails.
> > > > 
> > > > Visual artifacts are guaranteed to not appear when this flag is
> > > > not set.
> > > 
> > > That doesn't seem to be true, though. For example setting
> > > HDR_OUTPUT_METADATA for example does result in visual artifacts on my
> > > display no matter if the flag is specified or not because the
> > > artifacts are not the result of a mode set but of the display reacting
> > > to some AVI InfoFrame.
> > 
> > One would need to read the HDMI spec to see if there's anything in
> > there about artifacts on AVI InfoFrame change, then figure out whether
> > this is a bug in the physical screen itself or whether the kernel
> > driver should require ALLOW_MODESET when updating the HDR metadata.
> 
> I'm not even sure if that's the right thing to do. ALLOW_MODESET isn't
> really about if a commit can lead to visual artifacts but about
> keeping the existing links alive (someone with more knowledge on this
> subject probably has a better description for this). An async commit
> can also introduce visual artifacts for example and there are probably
> more cases.

That's certainly not the intent of ALLOW_MODESET.

See the kernel docs for atomic_check:

> This callback also needs to correctly fill out the drm_crtc_state in
> this update to make sure that drm_atomic_crtc_needs_modeset() reflects
> the nature of the possible update and returns true if and only if the
> update cannot be applied without tearing within one vblank on that
> CRTC. The core uses that information to reject updates which require
> a full modeset (i.e. blanking the screen, or at least pausing updates
> for a substantial amount of time) if userspace has disallowed that in
> its request.

I'm sure Daniel Vetter can confirm this as well.




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