Re: [PATCH v2] drm/doc: add rfc section for small BAR uapi

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Well usually we increment the drm minor version when adding some new flags on amdgpu.

Additional to that just one comment from our experience with that: You don't just need one flag, but two. The first one is a hint which says "CPU access needed" and the second is a promise which says "CPU access never needed".

The background is that on a whole bunch of buffers you can 100% certain say that you will never ever need CPU access.

Then at least we have a whole bunch of buffers where we might need CPU access, but can't tell for sure.

And last we have stuff like transfer buffers you can be 100% sure that you need CPU access.

Separating it like this helped a lot with performance on small BAR systems.

Regards,
Christian.

Am 27.04.22 um 08:48 schrieb Lionel Landwerlin:
One question though, how do we detect that this flag (I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_FLAG_NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS) is accepted on a given kernel? I assume older kernels are going to reject object creation if we use this flag?

I didn't plan to use __drm_i915_query_vma_info, but isn't it inconsistent to select the placement on the GEM object and then query whether it's mappable by address? You made a comment stating this is racy, wouldn't querying on the GEM object prevent this?

Thanks,

-Lionel

On 27/04/2022 09:35, Lionel Landwerlin wrote:
Hi Matt,


The proposal looks good to me.

Looking forward to try it on drm-tip.


-Lionel

On 20/04/2022 20:13, Matthew Auld wrote:
Add an entry for the new uapi needed for small BAR on DG2+.

v2:
   - Some spelling fixes and other small tweaks. (Akeem & Thomas)
   - Rework error capture interactions, including no longer needing
     NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS for objects marked for capture. (Thomas)
   - Add probed_cpu_visible_size. (Lionel)

Signed-off-by: Matthew Auld <matthew.auld@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Thomas Hellström <thomas.hellstrom@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Lionel Landwerlin <lionel.g.landwerlin@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Jon Bloomfield <jon.bloomfield@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx>
Cc: Jordan Justen <jordan.l.justen@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Kenneth Graunke <kenneth@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Akeem G Abodunrin <akeem.g.abodunrin@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: mesa-dev@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
---
  Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h   | 190 +++++++++++++++++++++++
  Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.rst |  58 +++++++
  Documentation/gpu/rfc/index.rst          |   4 +
  3 files changed, 252 insertions(+)
  create mode 100644 Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h
  create mode 100644 Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.rst

diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h b/Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..7bfd0cf44d35
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h
@@ -0,0 +1,190 @@
+/**
+ * struct __drm_i915_memory_region_info - Describes one region as known to the
+ * driver.
+ *
+ * Note this is using both struct drm_i915_query_item and struct drm_i915_query. + * For this new query we are adding the new query id DRM_I915_QUERY_MEMORY_REGIONS
+ * at &drm_i915_query_item.query_id.
+ */
+struct __drm_i915_memory_region_info {
+    /** @region: The class:instance pair encoding */
+    struct drm_i915_gem_memory_class_instance region;
+
+    /** @rsvd0: MBZ */
+    __u32 rsvd0;
+
+    /** @probed_size: Memory probed by the driver (-1 = unknown) */
+    __u64 probed_size;
+
+    /** @unallocated_size: Estimate of memory remaining (-1 = unknown) */
+    __u64 unallocated_size;
+
+    union {
+        /** @rsvd1: MBZ */
+        __u64 rsvd1[8];
+        struct {
+            /**
+             * @probed_cpu_visible_size: Memory probed by the driver
+             * that is CPU accessible. (-1 = unknown).
+             *
+             * This will be always be <= @probed_size, and the
+             * remainder(if there is any) will not be CPU
+             * accessible.
+             */
+            __u64 probed_cpu_visible_size;
+        };
+    };
+};
+
+/**
+ * struct __drm_i915_gem_create_ext - Existing gem_create behaviour, with added
+ * extension support using struct i915_user_extension.
+ *
+ * Note that new buffer flags should be added here, at least for the stuff that + * is immutable. Previously we would have two ioctls, one to create the object + * with gem_create, and another to apply various parameters, however this + * creates some ambiguity for the params which are considered immutable. Also in
+ * general we're phasing out the various SET/GET ioctls.
+ */
+struct __drm_i915_gem_create_ext {
+    /**
+     * @size: Requested size for the object.
+     *
+     * The (page-aligned) allocated size for the object will be returned.
+     *
+     * Note that for some devices we have might have further minimum
+     * page-size restrictions(larger than 4K), like for device local-memory. +     * However in general the final size here should always reflect any +     * rounding up, if for example using the I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_MEMORY_REGIONS
+     * extension to place the object in device local-memory.
+     */
+    __u64 size;
+    /**
+     * @handle: Returned handle for the object.
+     *
+     * Object handles are nonzero.
+     */
+    __u32 handle;
+    /**
+     * @flags: Optional flags.
+     *
+     * Supported values:
+     *
+     * I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_FLAG_NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS - Signal to the kernel that
+     * the object will need to be accessed via the CPU.
+     *
+     * Only valid when placing objects in I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE, and +     * only strictly required on platforms where only some of the device +     * memory is directly visible or mappable through the CPU, like on DG2+.
+     *
+     * One of the placements MUST also be I915_MEMORY_CLASS_SYSTEM, to
+     * ensure we can always spill the allocation to system memory, if we
+     * can't place the object in the mappable part of
+     * I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE.
+     *
+     * Note that since the kernel only supports flat-CCS on objects that can +     * *only* be placed in I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE, we therefore don't
+     * support I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_FLAG_NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS together with
+     * flat-CCS.
+     *
+     * Without this hint, the kernel will assume that non-mappable
+     * I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE is preferred for this object. Note that the +     * kernel can still migrate the object to the mappable part, as a last +     * resort, if userspace ever CPU faults this object, but this might be
+     * expensive, and so ideally should be avoided.
+     */
+#define I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_FLAG_NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS (1 << 0)
+    __u32 flags;
+    /**
+     * @extensions: The chain of extensions to apply to this object.
+     *
+     * This will be useful in the future when we need to support several
+     * different extensions, and we need to apply more than one when
+     * creating the object. See struct i915_user_extension.
+     *
+     * If we don't supply any extensions then we get the same old gem_create
+     * behaviour.
+     *
+     * For I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_MEMORY_REGIONS usage see
+     * struct drm_i915_gem_create_ext_memory_regions.
+     *
+     * For I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_PROTECTED_CONTENT usage see
+     * struct drm_i915_gem_create_ext_protected_content.
+     */
+#define I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_MEMORY_REGIONS 0
+#define I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_PROTECTED_CONTENT 1
+    __u64 extensions;
+};
+
+#define DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO    5
+
+/**
+ * struct __drm_i915_query_vma_info
+ *
+ * Given a vm and GTT address, lookup the corresponding vma, returning its set
+ * of attributes.
+ *
+ * .. code-block:: C
+ *
+ *    struct drm_i915_query_vma_info info = {};
+ *    struct drm_i915_query_item item = {
+ *        .data_ptr = (uintptr_t)&info,
+ *        .query_id = DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO,
+ *    };
+ *    struct drm_i915_query query = {
+ *        .num_items = 1,
+ *        .items_ptr = (uintptr_t)&item,
+ *    };
+ *    int err;
+ *
+ *    // Unlike some other types of queries, there is no need to first query + *    // the size of the data_ptr blob here, since we already know ahead of
+ *    // time how big this needs to be.
+ *    item.length = sizeof(info);
+ *
+ *    // Next we fill in the vm_id and ppGTT address of the vma we wish
+ *    // to query, before then firing off the query.
+ *    info.vm_id = vm_id;
+ *    info.offset = gtt_address;
+ *    err = ioctl(fd, DRM_IOCTL_I915_QUERY, &query);
+ *    if (err || item.length < 0) ...
+ *
+ *    // If all went well we can now inspect the returned attributes.
+ *    if (info.attributes & DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO_CPU_VISIBLE) ...
+ */
+struct __drm_i915_query_vma_info {
+    /**
+     * @vm_id: The given vm id that contains the vma. The id is the value
+     * returned by the DRM_I915_GEM_VM_CREATE. See struct
+     * drm_i915_gem_vm_control.vm_id.
+     */
+    __u32 vm_id;
+    /** @pad: MBZ. */
+    __u32 pad;
+    /**
+     * @offset: The corresponding ppGTT address of the vma which the kernel
+     * will use to perform the lookup.
+     */
+    __u64 offset;
+    /**
+     * @attributes: The returned attributes for the given vma.
+     *
+     * Possible values:
+     *
+     * DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO_CPU_VISIBLE - Set if the pages backing the +     * vma are currently CPU accessible. If this is not set then the vma is +     * currently backed by I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE memory, which the CPU +     * cannot directly access(this is only possible on discrete devices with
+     * a small BAR). Attempting to MMAP and fault such an object will
+     * require the kernel first synchronising any GPU work tied to the
+     * object, before then migrating the pages, either to the CPU accessible +     * part of I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE, or I915_MEMORY_CLASS_SYSTEM, if the +     * placements permit it. See I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_FLAG_NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS.
+     *
+     * Note that this is inherently racy.
+     */
+#define DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO_CPU_VISIBLE (1<<0)
+    __u64 attributes;
+    /** @rsvd: MBZ */
+    __u32 rsvd[4];
+};
diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.rst b/Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.rst
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..be3d9bcdd86d
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
+==========================
+I915 Small BAR RFC Section
+==========================
+Starting from DG2 we will have resizable BAR support for device local-memory(i.e +I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE), but in some cases the final BAR size might still be
+smaller than the total probed_size. In such cases, only some subset of
+I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE will be CPU accessible(for example the first 256M),
+while the remainder is only accessible via the GPU.
+
+I915_GEM_CREATE_EXT_FLAG_NEEDS_CPU_ACCESS flag
+----------------------------------------------
+New gem_create_ext flag to tell the kernel that a BO will require CPU access. +This becomes important when placing an object in I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE, where +underneath the device has a small BAR, meaning only some portion of it is CPU +accessible. Without this flag the kernel will assume that CPU access is not
+required, and prioritize using the non-CPU visible portion of
+I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE.
+
+.. kernel-doc:: Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h
+   :functions: __drm_i915_gem_create_ext
+
+probed_cpu_visible_size attribute
+---------------------------------
+New struct__drm_i915_memory_region attribute which returns the total size of the
+CPU accessible portion, for the particular region. This should only be
+applicable for I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE.
+
+Vulkan will need this as part of creating a separate VkMemoryHeap with the +VK_MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT set, to represent the CPU visible portion,
+where the total size of the heap needs to be known.
+
+.. kernel-doc:: Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h
+   :functions: __drm_i915_memory_region_info
+
+DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO query
+-----------------------------
+Query the attributes of some vma. Given a vm and GTT offset, find the
+respective vma, and return its set of attributes. For now we only support
+DRM_I915_QUERY_VMA_INFO_CPU_VISIBLE, which is set if the object/vma is
+currently placed in memory that is accessible by the CPU. This should always be +set on devices where the CPU probed_cpu_visible_size of I915_MEMORY_CLASS_DEVICE +matches the probed_size. If this is not set then CPU faulting the object will
+likely first require migrating the pages.
+
+.. kernel-doc:: Documentation/gpu/rfc/i915_small_bar.h
+   :functions: __drm_i915_query_vma_info
+
+Error Capture restrictions
+--------------------------
+With error capture we have two new restrictions:
+
+    1) Error capture is best effort on small BAR systems; if the pages are not +    CPU accessible, at the time of capture, then the kernel is free to skip
+    trying to capture them.
+
+    2) On discrete we now reject error capture on recoverable contexts. In the +    future the kernel may want to blit during error capture, when for example
+    something is not currently CPU accessible.
diff --git a/Documentation/gpu/rfc/index.rst b/Documentation/gpu/rfc/index.rst
index 91e93a705230..5a3bd3924ba6 100644
--- a/Documentation/gpu/rfc/index.rst
+++ b/Documentation/gpu/rfc/index.rst
@@ -23,3 +23,7 @@ host such documentation:
  .. toctree::
        i915_scheduler.rst
+
+.. toctree::
+
+    i915_small_bar.rst







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