RE: [PATCH 5/6] drm/rcar_du: changes to rcar-du driver resulting from drm_writeback_connector structure changes

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Hi Abhinav,
> > Hi,
> >>> Hi,
> >>>>> Hi Abhinav,
> >>>>>> Hi Laurent
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok sure, I can take this up but I need to understand the proposal
> >>>>>> a little bit more before proceeding on this. So we will discuss
> >>>>>> this in another email where we specifically talk about the
> >> connector changes.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Also, I am willing to take this up once the encoder part is done
> >>>>>> and merged so that atleast we keep moving on that as MSM WB
> >>>>>> implementation can proceed with that first.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Jani and Suraj
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Any concerns with splitting up the series into encoder and
> >>>>>> connector OR re- arranging them?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Let me know if you can do this OR I can also split this up
> >>>>>> keeping Suraj's name in the Co-developed by tag.
> >>>>> I was actually thinking of floating a new patch series with both
> >>>>> encoder and connector pointer changes but with a change in
> >>>>> initialization functions wherein we allocate a connector and
> >>>>> encoder incase the driver doesn’t have its own this should
> >>>>> minimize the effect on other drivers already using current drm
> >>>>> writeback framework and also
> >>>> allow i915 to create its own connector.
> >>>>
> 
> I was proposing to split up the encoder and connector because the
> comments from Laurent meant we were in agreement about the encoder
> but not about the connector.
> 
> I am afraid another attempt with the similar idea is only going to stall the
> series again and hence i gave this option.

Seems like this patch series currently won't be able to move forward with the
connector pointer change so I guess you can split the series to encoder pointer
change where we optionally create encoder if required ,keeping my name in 
co-developed tag so that msm can move forward with its implementation and
then we can work to see how the connector issue can be bypassed.

Best Regards,
Suraj Kandpal
> Eventually its upto Laurent and the other maintainers to guide us forward on
> this as this series has been stalled for weeks now.
> 
> >>>> I thought that Laurent was quite strict about the connector. So I'd
> >>>> suggest targeting drm_writeback_connector with an optionally
> >>>> created encoder and the builtin connector
> >>> In that case even if we target that i915 will not be able to move
> >>> forward with its implementation of writeback as builtin connector
> >>> does not work for us right now as explained earlier, optionally
> >>> creating encoder and connector will help everyone move forward and
> >>> once done
> >> we
> >>> can actually sit and work on how to side step this issue using
> >>> Laurent's suggestion
> >>
> >> This is up to Laurent & other DRM maintainers to decide whether this
> >> approach would be accepted or not.
> >> So far unfortunately I have mostly seen the pushback and a strong
> >> suggestion to stop treating each drm_connector as i915_connector.
> >> I haven't checked the exact details, but IMO adding a branch if the
> >> connector's type is DRM_CONNECTOR_VIRTUAL should be doable.
> > Bringing in the change where we don’t treat each drm_connector as an
> > intel_connector or even adding a branch which checks if drm_connector
> > is DRM_CONNECTOR_VIRTUAL and conditionally cast it to intel_connector
> > is quite a lot of work for i915.
> > That's why I was suggesting if for now we could move forward with
> > optionally creating both encoder and connector minimizing affects on
> > other drivers as well as allowing us to move forward.
> > What do you think, Launrent?
> >
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>>> We can work on Laurent's suggestion but that would first require
> >>>>> the initial RFC patches and then a rework from both of our drivers
> >>>>> side to see if they gel well with our current code which will take
> >>>>> a considerable amount of time. We can for now however float the
> >>>>> patch series up which minimally affects the current drivers and
> >>>>> also allows
> >>>>> i915 and msm to move forward with its writeback implementation off
> >>>>> course with a proper documentation stating new drivers shouldn't
> >>>>> try to
> >>>> make their own connectors and encoders and that drm_writeback will
> >>>> do that for them.
> >>>>> Once that's done and merged we can work with Laurent on his
> >>>>> proposal to improve the drm writeback framework so that this issue
> >>>>> can be side
> >>>> stepped entirely in future.
> >>>>> For now I would like to keep the encoder and connector pointer
> >>>>> changes
> >>>> together.
> >>>
> >>




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