Re: [PATCH 5/6] drm/rcar_du: changes to rcar-du driver resulting from drm_writeback_connector structure changes

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Hi Dmitry,

On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 11:07:41AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 11:00, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 05:10:06AM +0000, Kandpal, Suraj wrote:
> > > Hi Abhinav,
> > >
> > > > Based on the discussion in this thread [1] , it seems like having drm_encoder
> > > > as a pointer seems to have merits for both of us and also in agreement with
> > > > the folks on this thread and has a better chance of an ack.
> > > >
> > > > However drm_connector is not.
> > > >
> > > > I had a brief look at your implementation. Any reason you need to go
> > > > through intel_connector here and not drm_writeback_connector directly?
> > > >
> > > > The reason I ask is that I see you are not using prepare_writeback_job hook.
> > > > If you use that, you can use the drm_writeback_connector passed on from
> > > > there instead of looping through your list like you are doing in
> > > > intel_find_writeback_connector.
> > > >
> > > > Also, none of the other entries of struct intel_connector are being used for
> > > > the writeback implementation. So does the drm_writeback_connector in
> > > > your implementation need to be an intel_connector when its anyway not
> > > > using other fields? Why cant it be just stored as a drm_writeback_connector
> > > > itself in your struct intel_wd.
> > >
> > > The reason we can't do that is i915 driver always assumes that all connectors
> > > present in device list is an intel connector and since drm_writeback_connector
> > > even though a faux connector in it's initialization calls drm_connector_init()
> > > and gets added to the drm device list and hence the i915 driver also expects
> > > a corresponding intel connector to go with it. In case I do try to make writeback
> > > connector standalone a lot of checks, a lot will have to be added all around the
> > > driver as there could be a chance that one of the drm_connector in the drm device
> > > list may not be an intel_connector.
> > > Yes right now not all fields of intel_connector are being used but we will be working
> > > on filling them as we add more functionality to writeback for example introducing
> > > content protection.
> > > So even if I do float the patch series with just drm_encoder as pointer it won't help
> > > us with our implementation if drm_connector isn't a pointer too.
> >
> > This is a direct consequence of the decision to use connectors for
> > writeback in the userspace API. This disrupts any code that assumes that
> > a connector is a connector. The problem isn't limited to kernelspace,
> > userspace has the same exact problem, which resulted in a hack to avoid
> > breaking everything. Userspace software that needs to deal with
> > writeback needs to set the DRM_CLIENT_CAP_WRITEBACK_CONNECTORS
> > capability to get the writeback connectors exposed by the kernel, but
> > more than that, a large refactoring is then often needed to chase all
> > code paths that assume a connector is a connector.
> >
> > I'm afraid the same applies to the kernel. Drivers that don't use
> > writeback are largely unaffected. Drievrs that want to use writeback
> > need to be refactored to properly handle the fact that writeback
> > connectors are special. i915 will need to go that way.
> 
> Laurent, you have frown upon the idea of separating the connector from
> the drm_writeback_connector struct. What about the encoder?
> The msm code in question can be found at the patchwork:
> https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/99724/. This series depends
> on Intel's patch, but should give you the overall feeling of the code
> being shared between to-the-display and writeback pipelines.

I'm not too fond of separating the encoder either as explained
separately in this mail thread, but I won't block that as it's even more
difficult to avoid today. drm_encoder is a bit of a historical mistake
that we need to keep around because it's exposed to userspace. With
drivers more and more reliant on drm_bridge, drm_encoder is less
meaningful than it used to be. I would like to see the subsystem
continuing in that direction, with drm_encoder becoming an empty shell.
Drivers should decouple the CRTC outputs from the drm_encoder object,
likely creating driver-specific structures to model a CRTC output (which
is largely what the driver-specific subclasses of drm_encoder do today),
and create drm_encoder instances only for the purpose of exposing the
display topology to userspace.

Longer term I can even imagine having a different way to expose the
display topology to userspace, without drm_encoder but with objects that
will be allowed to support more complex topologies that the CRTC +
encoder + connector abstraction can't model. Later :-)

-- 
Regards,

Laurent Pinchart



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