On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 12:17:08PM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/26/22 11:31, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 9:31 AM Greg Kroah-Hartman > > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: ... > > On the other hand ... why does it have to be resurrecting fbdev? > > There's an entire community of people who really know graphics and > > display and spent considerable amount of effort on creating useful and > > documented helpers for pretty much anything you might ever want to do. > > And somehow we have to go back to typing out things the hard way, with > > full verbosity, for an uapi that distros are abandoning (e.g. even for > > sdl the direction is to run it on top of drm with a compat layer, > > afaiui fedora is completely ditching any userspace that still even > > uses /dev/fb/0). And yes I know there's still some gaps in drm, > > largely for display features which were really en vogue about 20 years > > ago. And we're happy to add that support, if someone who still has > > such hardware can put in the little bit of work needed ... > > > > I don't get this. > > You are describing a transitioning over to DRM - which is Ok. > But on that way there is no need to ignore, deny or even kill usage scenarios > which are different compared to your usage scenarios (e.g. embedded devices, > old platforms, slow devices, slow busses, no 3D hardware features, > low-color devices, ...). Exactly, I am on the same side here. -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko