Re: [RFC PATCH v3 1/6] drm/doc: Color Management and HDR10 RFC

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On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 10:42:12AM +0530, Sharma, Shashank wrote:
> Hello Brian,
> (+Uma in cc)
> 
> Thanks for your comments, Let me try to fill-in for Harry to keep the design
> discussion going. Please find my comments inline.
> 
> On 8/2/2021 10:00 PM, Brian Starkey wrote:
> >

-- snip --

> > 
> > Android doesn't blend in linear space, so any API shouldn't be built
> > around an assumption of linear blending.
> > 
> 
> If I am not wrong, we still need linear buffers for accurate Gamut
> transformation (SRGB -> BT2020 or other way around) isn't it ?

Yeah, you need to transform the buffer to linear for color gamut
conversions, but then back to non-linear (probably sRGB or gamma 2.2)
for actual blending.

This is why I'd like to have the per-plane "OETF/GAMMA" separate
from tone-mapping, so that the composition transfer function is
independent.

> 

...

> > > +
> > > +Tonemapping in this case could be a simple nits value or `EDR`_ to describe
> > > +how to scale the :ref:`SDR luminance`.
> > > +
> > > +Tonemapping could also include the ability to use a 3D LUT which might be
> > > +accompanied by a 1D shaper LUT. The shaper LUT is required in order to
> > > +ensure a 3D LUT with limited entries (e.g. 9x9x9, or 17x17x17) operates
> > > +in perceptual (non-linear) space, so as to evenly spread the limited
> > > +entries evenly across the perceived space.
> > 
> > Some terminology care may be needed here - up until this point, I
> > think you've been talking about "tonemapping" being luminance
> > adjustment, whereas I'd expect 3D LUTs to be used for gamut
> > adjustment.
> > 
> 
> IMO, what harry wants to say here is that, which HW block gets picked and
> how tone mapping is achieved can be a very driver/HW specific thing, where
> one driver can use a 1D/Fixed function block, whereas another one can choose
> more complex HW like a 3D LUT for the same.
> 
> DRM layer needs to define only the property to hook the API with core
> driver, and the driver can decide which HW to pick and configure for the
> activity. So when we have a tonemapping property, we might not have a
> separate 3D-LUT property, or the driver may fail the atomic_check() if both
> of them are programmed for different usages.

I still think that directly exposing the HW blocks and their
capabilities is the right approach, rather than a "magic" tonemapping
property.

Yes, userspace would need to have a good understanding of how to use
that hardware, but if the pipeline model is standardised that's the
kind of thing a cross-vendor library could handle.

It would definitely be good to get some compositor opinions here.

Cheers,
-Brian



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