Understood. I saw weston client apps were failing to create render buffers from kmsro driver and found it was because they were not allowed to create and destroy dumb objects then I came up with this patch. I just thought it's the simplest solution. I didn't know it violates the rule. I think I should look into kmsro to make the client app to get the render buffer from ro-device instead. Thanks On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 11:39:46AM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2021 at 10:47, Daniel Vetter <daniel@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 02:36:59PM -0700, Dongwon Kim wrote: > > > Render clients should be able to create/destroy dumb object to import > > > and use it as render buffer in case the default DRM device is different > > > from the render device (i.e. kmsro). > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Dongwon Kim <dongwon.kim@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > Uh no. > > > > Well I know everyone just hacks around this, but the idea behind dumb > > buffer objects is that they're for kms scanout only. Furthermore on many > > drivers they allocate a limited resource like CMA memory. Handing that out > > like candy isn't a great idea. > > > > And it's exactly those drivers that kmsro currently is used for where the > > display driver needs special memory. > > Couldn't agree more. Perhaps we should add an inline comment and/or > reference to a thread why? > > -Emil