Re: [PATCH 1/2] drm/i915: add gem/gt TODO

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On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 08:34:55AM -0400, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 12:57:39PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 12:13:11PM +0200, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2021, Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > We've discussed a bit how to get the gem/gt team better integrated
> > > > and collaborate more with the wider community and agreed to the
> > > > following:
> > > >
> > > > - all gem/gt patches are reviewed on dri-devel for now. That's
> > > >   overkill, but in the past there was definitely too little of that.
> > > >
> > > > - i915-gem folks are encouraged to cross review core patches from
> > > >   other teams
> > > >
> > > > - big features (especially uapi changes) need to be discussed in an
> > > >   rfc patch that documents the interface and big picture design,
> > > >   before we get lost in the details of the code
> > > >
> > > > - Also a rough TODO (can be refined as we go ofc) to get gem/gt back
> > > >   on track, like we've e.g. done with DAL/DC to get that in shape.
> > > 
> > > I personally think there should be a lower bar for discussing and
> > > editing the TODO items than via patches on the mailing list. Granted,
> > > the TODO file enforces the discussion happens at a large enough
> > > audience, but for at least some of the items I'd suggest filing gitlab
> > > issues [1], with todo label, and tracking there.
> 
> I also don't like the todo list in files and I agree that gitlab issues
> section should be better...
> 
> > In general yes, and I'd go even further: it's up to each team/contributor
> > how they track review feedback and further work, whether that's gitlab or
> > some notes or just in their heads.
> > 
> > This is a different situation here, and the "changes require big audience"
> > is a feature, not a bug. But it is a very exceptional situation, I think
> > this is only the 2nd time we're using a formal TODO for a gpu driver. If
> > we ignore gma500 in staging, which for me only showed that the separate
> > staging tree doesn't work so well for complex drivers like we have.
> 
> ... but I understand the motivation, so
> 
> Acked-by: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@xxxxxxxxx>
> 
> However... what about:
> 
> 1. moving the smaller items to gitlab at least?
> 2. having both, all the entries in the todo file have gitlab issue
> associated and the number-id is also here in the todo file?

Yeah that sounds reasonable. tbh we haven't started any of the
intel-internal planning on most of these (ttm and scheduler are started),
so none of these tracking things exist yet at all ...
-Daniel

> 
> > -Daniel
> > 
> > > 
> > > BR,
> > > Jani.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [1] https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/intel/-/issues
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Cc: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: Joonas Lahtinen <joonas.lahtinen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: Jason Ekstrand <jason@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Cc: Dave Airlie <airlied@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Signed-off-by: Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/gpu/drm/i915/TODO.txt | 36 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > >  1 file changed, 36 insertions(+)
> > > >  create mode 100644 drivers/gpu/drm/i915/TODO.txt
> > > >
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/TODO.txt b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/TODO.txt
> > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > index 000000000000..d2e5bbb6339d
> > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/TODO.txt
> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,36 @@
> > > > +gem/gt TODO items
> > > > +-----------------
> > > > +
> > > > +- For discrete memory manager, merge enough dg1 to be able to refactor it to
> > > > +  TTM. Then land pci ids (just in case that turns up an uapi problem). TTM has
> > > > +  improved a lot the past 2 years, there's no reason anymore not to use it.
> > > > +
> > > > +- Come up with a plan what to do with drm/scheduler and how to get there.
> > > > +
> > > > +- There's a lot of complexity added past few years to make relocations faster.
> > > > +  That doesn't make sense given hw and gpu apis moved away from this model years
> > > > +  ago:
> > > > +  1. Land a modern pre-bound uapi like VM_BIND
> > > > +  2. Any complexity added in this area past few years which can't be justified
> > > > +  with VM_BIND using userspace should be removed. Looking at amdgpu dma_resv on
> > > > +  the bo and vm, plus some lru locks is all that needed. No complex rcu,
> > > > +  refcounts, caching, ... on everything.
> > > > +  This is the matching task on the vm side compared to ttm/dma_resv on the
> > > > +  backing storage side.
> > > > +
> > > > +- i915_sw_fence seems to be the main structure for the i915-gem dma_fence model.
> > > > +  How-to-dma_fence is core and drivers really shouldn't build their own world
> > > > +  here, treating everything else as a fixed platform. i915_sw_fence concepts
> > > > +  should be moved to dma_fence, drm/scheduler or atomic commit helpers. Or
> > > > +  removed if dri-devel consensus is that it's not a good idea. Once that's done
> > > > +  maybe even remove it if there's nothing left.
> > > > +
> > > > +Smaller things:
> > > > +- i915_utils.h needs to be moved to the right places.
> > > > +
> > > > +- dma_fence_work should be in drivers/dma-buf
> > > > +
> > > > +- i915_mm.c should be moved to the right places. Some of the helpers also look a
> > > > +  bit fishy:
> > > > +
> > > > +  https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20210301083320.943079-1-hch@xxxxxx/
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics Center
> > 
> > -- 
> > Daniel Vetter
> > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
> > http://blog.ffwll.ch

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Daniel Vetter
Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
http://blog.ffwll.ch
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