Re: [PATCH 3/3] drm/ttm: switch to per device LRU lock

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On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:03 PM Christian König
<ckoenig.leichtzumerken@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Am 16.03.21 um 10:35 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 05:04:22PM +0100, Christian König wrote:
> >> Instead of having a global lock.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Christian König <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx>
> > I guess per zone lru lock is a lot more work since then we need to handle
> > ordering and ABBA deadlocks? s/zone/mem region/ I think is the proper ttm
> > lingo.
>
> Making the LRU per resource manager is the long term goal, yes.
>
> My key idea so far is that we make bo->mem a pointer and then move the
> LRU handling into the resource object instead of the BO.
>
> The resource object then just references the BO and so that we can
> figure out which BO to evict or which fence to wait for to free up a
> resource.

Hm yeah that could work out fairly nicely. Both from locking but also
refcounting pov. And maybe we could then use entirely free-standing
mem objects instead of ghost objects? Since that's a part of ttm I
don't grok and it always looks a bit like a hack to me. So for these
ghost mem objects you'd only need the lru + dma_fence_wait (can grab a
fence ref under the lru and then drop lru lock for that) for eviction,
no dma_resv_lock.
-Daniel
>
> Regards,
> Christian.
>
> > -Daniel
> >
> >> ---
> >>   drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vm.c |  8 ++---
> >>   drivers/gpu/drm/qxl/qxl_release.c      |  5 +--
> >>   drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c           | 49 ++++++++++++--------------
> >>   drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_device.c       | 12 +++----
> >>   drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_execbuf_util.c |  8 ++---
> >>   drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_resource.c     |  9 +++--
> >>   include/drm/ttm/ttm_bo_driver.h        |  4 +--
> >>   include/drm/ttm/ttm_device.h           |  4 +--
> >>   8 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 56 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vm.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vm.c
> >> index 9d19078246c8..ae18c0e32347 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vm.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/amd/amdgpu/amdgpu_vm.c
> >> @@ -638,15 +638,15 @@ void amdgpu_vm_move_to_lru_tail(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
> >>      struct amdgpu_vm_bo_base *bo_base;
> >>
> >>      if (vm->bulk_moveable) {
> >> -            spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_lock(&adev->mman.bdev.lru_lock);
> >>              ttm_bo_bulk_move_lru_tail(&vm->lru_bulk_move);
> >> -            spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_unlock(&adev->mman.bdev.lru_lock);
> >>              return;
> >>      }
> >>
> >>      memset(&vm->lru_bulk_move, 0, sizeof(vm->lru_bulk_move));
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&adev->mman.bdev.lru_lock);
> >>      list_for_each_entry(bo_base, &vm->idle, vm_status) {
> >>              struct amdgpu_bo *bo = bo_base->bo;
> >>
> >> @@ -660,7 +660,7 @@ void amdgpu_vm_move_to_lru_tail(struct amdgpu_device *adev,
> >>                                              &bo->shadow->tbo.mem,
> >>                                              &vm->lru_bulk_move);
> >>      }
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&adev->mman.bdev.lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      vm->bulk_moveable = true;
> >>   }
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/qxl/qxl_release.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/qxl/qxl_release.c
> >> index f5845c96d414..b19f2f00b215 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/qxl/qxl_release.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/qxl/qxl_release.c
> >> @@ -426,16 +426,13 @@ void qxl_release_fence_buffer_objects(struct qxl_release *release)
> >>                     release->id | 0xf0000000, release->base.seqno);
> >>      trace_dma_fence_emit(&release->base);
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> -
> >>      list_for_each_entry(entry, &release->bos, head) {
> >>              bo = entry->bo;
> >>
> >>              dma_resv_add_shared_fence(bo->base.resv, &release->base);
> >> -            ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail(bo, &bo->mem, NULL);
> >> +            ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail_unlocked(bo);
> >>              dma_resv_unlock(bo->base.resv);
> >>      }
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >>      ww_acquire_fini(&release->ticket);
> >>   }
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c
> >> index a1be88be357b..a8103c8718a3 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_bo.c
> >> @@ -242,9 +242,9 @@ static int ttm_bo_individualize_resv(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo)
> >>               * reference it any more. The only tricky case is the trylock on
> >>               * the resv object while holding the lru_lock.
> >>               */
> >> -            spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>              bo->base.resv = &bo->base._resv;
> >> -            spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      }
> >>
> >>      return r;
> >> @@ -303,7 +303,7 @@ static int ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>
> >>              if (unlock_resv)
> >>                      dma_resv_unlock(bo->base.resv);
> >> -            spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>              lret = dma_resv_wait_timeout_rcu(resv, true, interruptible,
> >>                                               30 * HZ);
> >> @@ -313,7 +313,7 @@ static int ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>              else if (lret == 0)
> >>                      return -EBUSY;
> >>
> >> -            spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>              if (unlock_resv && !dma_resv_trylock(bo->base.resv)) {
> >>                      /*
> >>                       * We raced, and lost, someone else holds the reservation now,
> >> @@ -323,7 +323,7 @@ static int ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>                       * delayed destruction would succeed, so just return success
> >>                       * here.
> >>                       */
> >> -                    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +                    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>                      return 0;
> >>              }
> >>              ret = 0;
> >> @@ -332,13 +332,13 @@ static int ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>      if (ret || unlikely(list_empty(&bo->ddestroy))) {
> >>              if (unlock_resv)
> >>                      dma_resv_unlock(bo->base.resv);
> >> -            spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>              return ret;
> >>      }
> >>
> >>      ttm_bo_del_from_lru(bo);
> >>      list_del_init(&bo->ddestroy);
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      ttm_bo_cleanup_memtype_use(bo);
> >>
> >>      if (unlock_resv)
> >> @@ -355,13 +355,12 @@ static int ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>    */
> >>   bool ttm_bo_delayed_delete(struct ttm_device *bdev, bool remove_all)
> >>   {
> >> -    struct ttm_global *glob = &ttm_glob;
> >>      struct list_head removed;
> >>      bool empty;
> >>
> >>      INIT_LIST_HEAD(&removed);
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      while (!list_empty(&bdev->ddestroy)) {
> >>              struct ttm_buffer_object *bo;
> >>
> >> @@ -372,24 +371,24 @@ bool ttm_bo_delayed_delete(struct ttm_device *bdev, bool remove_all)
> >>                      continue;
> >>
> >>              if (remove_all || bo->base.resv != &bo->base._resv) {
> >> -                    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +                    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>                      dma_resv_lock(bo->base.resv, NULL);
> >>
> >> -                    spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +                    spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>                      ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(bo, false, !remove_all, true);
> >>
> >>              } else if (dma_resv_trylock(bo->base.resv)) {
> >>                      ttm_bo_cleanup_refs(bo, false, !remove_all, true);
> >>              } else {
> >> -                    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +                    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>              }
> >>
> >>              ttm_bo_put(bo);
> >> -            spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      }
> >>      list_splice_tail(&removed, &bdev->ddestroy);
> >>      empty = list_empty(&bdev->ddestroy);
> >> -    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      return empty;
> >>   }
> >> @@ -424,7 +423,7 @@ static void ttm_bo_release(struct kref *kref)
> >>              ttm_bo_flush_all_fences(bo);
> >>              bo->deleted = true;
> >>
> >> -            spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>              /*
> >>               * Make pinned bos immediately available to
> >> @@ -438,17 +437,17 @@ static void ttm_bo_release(struct kref *kref)
> >>
> >>              kref_init(&bo->kref);
> >>              list_add_tail(&bo->ddestroy, &bdev->ddestroy);
> >> -            spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>              schedule_delayed_work(&bdev->wq,
> >>                                    ((HZ / 100) < 1) ? 1 : HZ / 100);
> >>              return;
> >>      }
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      ttm_bo_del_from_lru(bo);
> >>      list_del(&bo->ddestroy);
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      ttm_bo_cleanup_memtype_use(bo);
> >>      dma_resv_unlock(bo->base.resv);
> >> @@ -622,7 +621,7 @@ int ttm_mem_evict_first(struct ttm_device *bdev,
> >>      unsigned i;
> >>      int ret;
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      for (i = 0; i < TTM_MAX_BO_PRIORITY; ++i) {
> >>              list_for_each_entry(bo, &man->lru[i], lru) {
> >>                      bool busy;
> >> @@ -659,7 +658,7 @@ int ttm_mem_evict_first(struct ttm_device *bdev,
> >>      if (!bo) {
> >>              if (busy_bo && !ttm_bo_get_unless_zero(busy_bo))
> >>                      busy_bo = NULL;
> >> -            spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +            spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>              ret = ttm_mem_evict_wait_busy(busy_bo, ctx, ticket);
> >>              if (busy_bo)
> >>                      ttm_bo_put(busy_bo);
> >> @@ -673,7 +672,7 @@ int ttm_mem_evict_first(struct ttm_device *bdev,
> >>              return ret;
> >>      }
> >>
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      ret = ttm_bo_evict(bo, ctx);
> >>      if (locked)
> >> @@ -773,10 +772,9 @@ static int ttm_bo_mem_placement(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>      mem->mem_type = place->mem_type;
> >>      mem->placement = place->flags;
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail(bo, mem, NULL);
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> -
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      return 0;
> >>   }
> >>
> >> @@ -1160,7 +1158,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(ttm_bo_wait);
> >>   int ttm_bo_swapout(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo, struct ttm_operation_ctx *ctx,
> >>                 gfp_t gfp_flags)
> >>   {
> >> -    struct ttm_global *glob = &ttm_glob;
> >>      bool locked;
> >>      int ret;
> >>
> >> @@ -1185,7 +1182,7 @@ int ttm_bo_swapout(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo, struct ttm_operation_ctx *ctx,
> >>
> >>      ttm_bo_del_from_lru(bo);
> >>      /* TODO: Cleanup the locking */
> >> -    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      /*
> >>       * Move to system cached
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_device.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_device.c
> >> index 2c280fb1e992..924d892109e8 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_device.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_device.c
> >> @@ -81,7 +81,6 @@ static int ttm_global_init(void)
> >>      ttm_pool_mgr_init(num_pages * 50 / 100);
> >>      ttm_tt_mgr_init();
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock_init(&glob->lru_lock);
> >>      glob->dummy_read_page = alloc_page(__GFP_ZERO | GFP_DMA32);
> >>
> >>      if (unlikely(glob->dummy_read_page == NULL)) {
> >> @@ -125,13 +124,12 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(ttm_global_swapout);
> >>   long ttm_device_swapout(struct ttm_device *bdev, struct ttm_operation_ctx *ctx,
> >>                      gfp_t gfp_flags)
> >>   {
> >> -    struct ttm_global *glob = &ttm_glob;
> >>      struct ttm_resource_manager *man;
> >>      struct ttm_buffer_object *bo;
> >>      unsigned i, j;
> >>      int ret;
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      for (i = TTM_PL_SYSTEM; i < TTM_NUM_MEM_TYPES; ++i) {
> >>              man = ttm_manager_type(bdev, i);
> >>              if (!man || !man->use_tt)
> >> @@ -156,7 +154,7 @@ long ttm_device_swapout(struct ttm_device *bdev, struct ttm_operation_ctx *ctx,
> >>                      }
> >>              }
> >>      }
> >> -    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      return 0;
> >>   }
> >>   EXPORT_SYMBOL(ttm_device_swapout);
> >> @@ -223,6 +221,7 @@ int ttm_device_init(struct ttm_device *bdev, struct ttm_device_funcs *funcs,
> >>
> >>      bdev->vma_manager = vma_manager;
> >>      INIT_DELAYED_WORK(&bdev->wq, ttm_device_delayed_workqueue);
> >> +    spin_lock_init(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      INIT_LIST_HEAD(&bdev->ddestroy);
> >>      bdev->dev_mapping = mapping;
> >>      mutex_lock(&ttm_global_mutex);
> >> @@ -235,7 +234,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(ttm_device_init);
> >>
> >>   void ttm_device_fini(struct ttm_device *bdev)
> >>   {
> >> -    struct ttm_global *glob = &ttm_glob;
> >>      struct ttm_resource_manager *man;
> >>      unsigned i;
> >>
> >> @@ -252,11 +250,11 @@ void ttm_device_fini(struct ttm_device *bdev)
> >>      if (ttm_bo_delayed_delete(bdev, true))
> >>              pr_debug("Delayed destroy list was clean\n");
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      for (i = 0; i < TTM_MAX_BO_PRIORITY; ++i)
> >>              if (list_empty(&man->lru[0]))
> >>                      pr_debug("Swap list %d was clean\n", i);
> >> -    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      ttm_pool_fini(&bdev->pool);
> >>      ttm_global_release();
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_execbuf_util.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_execbuf_util.c
> >> index 690ab97d52b7..071c48d672c6 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_execbuf_util.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_execbuf_util.c
> >> @@ -51,14 +51,12 @@ void ttm_eu_backoff_reservation(struct ww_acquire_ctx *ticket,
> >>      if (list_empty(list))
> >>              return;
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >>      list_for_each_entry(entry, list, head) {
> >>              struct ttm_buffer_object *bo = entry->bo;
> >>
> >> -            ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail(bo, &bo->mem, NULL);
> >> +            ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail_unlocked(bo);
> >>              dma_resv_unlock(bo->base.resv);
> >>      }
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      if (ticket)
> >>              ww_acquire_fini(ticket);
> >> @@ -154,7 +152,6 @@ void ttm_eu_fence_buffer_objects(struct ww_acquire_ctx *ticket,
> >>      if (list_empty(list))
> >>              return;
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >>      list_for_each_entry(entry, list, head) {
> >>              struct ttm_buffer_object *bo = entry->bo;
> >>
> >> @@ -162,10 +159,9 @@ void ttm_eu_fence_buffer_objects(struct ww_acquire_ctx *ticket,
> >>                      dma_resv_add_shared_fence(bo->base.resv, fence);
> >>              else
> >>                      dma_resv_add_excl_fence(bo->base.resv, fence);
> >> -            ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail(bo, &bo->mem, NULL);
> >> +            ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail_unlocked(bo);
> >>              dma_resv_unlock(bo->base.resv);
> >>      }
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >>      if (ticket)
> >>              ww_acquire_fini(ticket);
> >>   }
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_resource.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_resource.c
> >> index ed1672a9f332..04f2eef653ab 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_resource.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/ttm/ttm_resource.c
> >> @@ -91,7 +91,6 @@ int ttm_resource_manager_evict_all(struct ttm_device *bdev,
> >>              .no_wait_gpu = false,
> >>              .force_alloc = true
> >>      };
> >> -    struct ttm_global *glob = &ttm_glob;
> >>      struct dma_fence *fence;
> >>      int ret;
> >>      unsigned i;
> >> @@ -100,18 +99,18 @@ int ttm_resource_manager_evict_all(struct ttm_device *bdev,
> >>       * Can't use standard list traversal since we're unlocking.
> >>       */
> >>
> >> -    spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      for (i = 0; i < TTM_MAX_BO_PRIORITY; ++i) {
> >>              while (!list_empty(&man->lru[i])) {
> >> -                    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +                    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>                      ret = ttm_mem_evict_first(bdev, man, NULL, &ctx,
> >>                                                NULL);
> >>                      if (ret)
> >>                              return ret;
> >> -                    spin_lock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +                    spin_lock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>              }
> >>      }
> >> -    spin_unlock(&glob->lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bdev->lru_lock);
> >>
> >>      spin_lock(&man->move_lock);
> >>      fence = dma_fence_get(man->move);
> >> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_bo_driver.h b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_bo_driver.h
> >> index d007feef7676..dbccac957f8f 100644
> >> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_bo_driver.h
> >> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_bo_driver.h
> >> @@ -180,9 +180,9 @@ static inline int ttm_bo_reserve_slowpath(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >>   static inline void
> >>   ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail_unlocked(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo)
> >>   {
> >> -    spin_lock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_lock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>      ttm_bo_move_to_lru_tail(bo, &bo->mem, NULL);
> >> -    spin_unlock(&ttm_glob.lru_lock);
> >> +    spin_unlock(&bo->bdev->lru_lock);
> >>   }
> >>
> >>   static inline void ttm_bo_assign_mem(struct ttm_buffer_object *bo,
> >> diff --git a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_device.h b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_device.h
> >> index cda6efb4c34b..bae56d29e8ff 100644
> >> --- a/include/drm/ttm/ttm_device.h
> >> +++ b/include/drm/ttm/ttm_device.h
> >> @@ -56,7 +56,6 @@ extern struct ttm_global {
> >>       */
> >>
> >>      struct page *dummy_read_page;
> >> -    spinlock_t lru_lock;
> >>
> >>      /**
> >>       * Protected by ttm_global_mutex.
> >> @@ -277,8 +276,9 @@ struct ttm_device {
> >>      struct ttm_pool pool;
> >>
> >>      /*
> >> -     * Protected by the global:lru lock.
> >> +     * Protection for the per manager LRU and ddestroy lists.
> >>       */
> >> +    spinlock_t lru_lock;
> >>      struct list_head ddestroy;
> >>
> >>      /*
> >> --
> >> 2.25.1
> >>
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