Re: [PATCH] drm/[amdgpu|radeon]: fix memset on io mem

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Am 17.12.20 um 14:45 schrieb Robin Murphy:
On 2020-12-17 10:25, Christian König wrote:
Am 17.12.20 um 02:07 schrieb Chen Li:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 22:19:11 +0800,
Christian König wrote:
Am 16.12.20 um 14:48 schrieb Chen Li:
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 15:59:37 +0800,
Christian König wrote:
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Hi, Christian. I'm not sure why this change is a hack here. I cannot see the problem and wll be grateful if you give more explainations.
__memset is supposed to work on those addresses, otherwise you can't use the
e8860 on your arm64 system.
If __memset is supposed to work on those adresses, why this commit(https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Ftorvalds%2Flinux%2Fcommit%2Fba0b2275a6781b2f3919d931d63329b5548f6d5f&data=04%7C01%7Cchristian.koenig%40amd.com%7C3551ae4972b044bb831608d8a291f81c%7C3dd8961fe4884e608e11a82d994e183d%7C0%7C0%7C637438095114292394%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=xns81uCGfN1tjsVn5LBU8QhmUinZRJQlXz8w%2FJ7%2FGTM%3D&reserved=0) is needed? (I also notice drm/radeon didn't take this change though) just out of curiosity.

We generally accept those patches as cleanup in the kernel with the hope that we can find a way to work around the userspace restrictions.

But when you also have this issue in userspace then there isn't much we can do for you.

Replacing the the direct write in the kernel with calls to writel() or
memset_io() will fix that temporary, but you have a more general problem here.
I cannot see what's the more general problem here :( u mean performance?

No, not performance. See standards like OpenGL, Vulkan as well as VA-API and VDPAU require that you can mmap() device memory and execute memset/memcpy on the memory from userspace.

If your ARM base board can't do that for some then you can't use the hardware with that board.

If the VRAM lives in a prefetchable PCI bar then on most sane Arm-based systems I believe it should be able to mmap() to userspace with the Normal memory type, where unaligned accesses and such are allowed, as opposed to the Device memory type intended for MMIO mappings, which has more restrictions but stricter ordering guarantees.

Do you have some background why some ARM boards fail with that?

We had a couple of reports that memset/memcpy fail in userspace (usually system just spontaneously reboots or becomes unresponsive), but so far nobody could tell us why that happens?


Regardless of what happens elsewhere though, if something is mapped *into the kernel* with ioremap(), then it is fundamentally wrong per the kernel memory model to reference that mapping directly without using I/O accessors. That is not specific to any individual architecture, and Sparse should be screaming about it already. I guess in this case the UVD code needs to pay more attention to whether radeon_bo_kmap() ends up going via ttm_bo_ioremap() or not.

Yes, exactly. That's why we already have memcpy_fromio()/memcpy_toio() to upload the firmware and save the state on suspend/resume.

It's just that in this case here we also have IO memory because some 15+ years old AGP based hardware doesn't work when you but it in system memory :)

So pointing that out is correct and I'm going to clean that up now.

Regards,
Christian.


(I'm assuming the initial fault was memset() with 0 trying to perform "DC ZVA" on a Device-type mapping from ioremap() - FYI a stacktrace on its own without the rest of the error dump showing what actually triggered it isn't overly useful)

Robin.

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