On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 5:45 PM Sam Ravnborg <sam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Hi Daniel et al. > > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 05:06:00PM +0100, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > So ever since syzbot discovered fbcon, we have solid proof that it's > > full of bugs. And often the solution is to just delete code and remove > > features, e.g. 50145474f6ef ("fbcon: remove soft scrollback code"). > > > > Now the problem is that most modern-ish drivers really only treat > > fbcon as an dumb kernel console until userspace takes over, and Oops > > printer for some emergencies. Looking at drm drivers and the basic > > vesa/efi fbdev drivers shows that only 3 drivers support any kind of > > acceleration: > > > > - nouveau, seems to be enabled by default > > - omapdrm, when a DMM remapper exists using remapper rewriting for > > y/xpanning > > - gma500, but that is getting deleted now for the GTT remapper trick, > > and the accelerated copyarea never set the FBINFO_HWACCEL_COPYAREA > > flag, so unused (and could be deleted already I think). > > > > No other driver supportes accelerated fbcon. And fbcon is the only > > user of this accel code (it's not exposed as uapi through ioctls), > > which means we could garbage collect fairly enormous amounts of code > > if we kill this. > > > > Plus because syzbot only runs on virtual hardware, and none of the > > drivers for that have acceleration, we'd remove a huge gap in testing. > > And there's no other even remotely comprehensive testing aside from > > syzbot. > > > > This patch here just disables the acceleration code by always > > redrawing when scrolling. > > So far I follow you - and agree. > Acked-by: Sam Ravnborg <sam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > The plan is that once this has been merged > > for well over a year in released kernels, we can start to go around > > and delete a lot of code. > > Why wait one year? We deleted the scrollback code without any prior > warning - which was fine. And acceleration support has less users > so there should be no reason to wait. > > So unless there are good arguments that I miss then we should just > delete the acceleration code outright. If you grep for FBINFO_HWACCEL and related stuff, we could delete like half the driver code, plus a ton of the related support code in fbcon and fbdev core. It's going to be a lot of work, and I don't want to do that and then have to back it out again. Compared to this the softscrollback removal was nothing. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel