On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:05 PM Christian König <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Am 08.07.20 um 17:01 schrieb Daniel Vetter: > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 4:37 PM Christian König <christian.koenig@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Am 08.07.20 um 11:54 schrieb Daniel Vetter: > >>> On Wed, Jul 08, 2020 at 11:22:00AM +0200, Christian König wrote: > >>>> Am 07.07.20 um 20:35 schrieb Chris Wilson: > >>>>> Quoting lepton (2020-07-07 19:17:51) > >>>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 10:20 AM Chris Wilson <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>> Quoting lepton (2020-07-07 18:05:21) > >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 9:00 AM Chris Wilson <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> If we assign obj->filp, we believe that the create vgem bo is native and > >>>>>>>>> allow direct operations like mmap() assuming it behaves as backed by a > >>>>>>>>> shmemfs inode. When imported from a dmabuf, the obj->pages are > >>>>>>>>> not always meaningful and the shmemfs backing store misleading. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Note, that regular mmap access to a vgem bo is via the dumb buffer API, > >>>>>>>>> and that rejects attempts to mmap an imported dmabuf, > >>>>>>>> What do you mean by "regular mmap access" here? It looks like vgem is > >>>>>>>> using vgem_gem_dumb_map as .dumb_map_offset callback then it doesn't call > >>>>>>>> drm_gem_dumb_map_offset > >>>>>>> As I too found out, and so had to correct my story telling. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> By regular mmap() access I mean mmap on the vgem bo [via the dumb buffer > >>>>>>> API] as opposed to mmap() via an exported dma-buf fd. I had to look at > >>>>>>> igt to see how it was being used. > >>>>>> Now it seems your fix is to disable "regular mmap" on imported dma buf > >>>>>> for vgem. I am not really a graphic guy, but then the api looks like: > >>>>>> for a gem handle, user space has to guess to find out the way to mmap > >>>>>> it. If user space guess wrong, then it will fail to mmap. Is this the > >>>>>> expected way > >>>>>> for people to handle gpu buffer? > >>>>> You either have a dumb buffer handle, or a dma-buf fd. If you have the > >>>>> handle, you have to use the dumb buffer API, there's no other way to > >>>>> mmap it. If you have the dma-buf fd, you should mmap it directly. Those > >>>>> two are clear. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's when you import the dma-buf into vgem and create a handle out of > >>>>> it, that's when the handle is no longer first class and certain uAPI > >>>>> [the dumb buffer API in particular] fail. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's not brilliant, as you say, it requires the user to remember the > >>>>> difference between the handles, but at the same time it does prevent > >>>>> them falling into coherency traps by forcing them to use the right > >>>>> driver to handle the object, and have to consider the additional ioctls > >>>>> that go along with that access. > >>>> Yes, Chris is right. Mapping DMA-buf through the mmap() APIs of an importer > >>>> is illegal. > >>>> > >>>> What we could maybe try to do is to redirect this mmap() API call on the > >>>> importer to the exporter, but I'm pretty sure that the fs layer wouldn't > >>>> like that without changes. > >>> We already do that, there's a full helper-ified path from I think shmem > >>> helpers through prime helpers to forward this all. Including handling > >>> buffer offsets and all the other lolz back&forth. > >> Oh, that most likely won't work correctly with unpinned DMA-bufs and > >> needs to be avoided. > >> > >> Each file descriptor is associated with an struct address_space. And > >> when you mmap() through the importer by redirecting the system call to > >> the exporter you end up with the wrong struct address_space in your VMA. > >> > >> That in turn can go up easily in flames when the exporter tries to > >> invalidate the CPU mappings for its DMA-buf while moving it. > >> > >> Where are we doing this? My last status was that this is forbidden. > > Hm I thought we're doing all that already, but looking at the code > > again we're only doing this when opening a new drm fd or dma-buf fd. > > So the right file->f_mapping is always set at file creation time. > > > > And we indeed don't frob this more when going another indirection ... > > Maybe we screwed up something somewhere :-/ > > > > Also I thought the mapping is only taken after the vma is instatiated, > > otherwise the tricks we're playing with dma-buf already wouldn't work: > > dma-buf has the buffer always at offset 0, whereas gem drm_fd mmap has > > it somewhere else. We already adjust vma->vm_pgoff, so I'm wondering > > whether we could adjust vm_file too. Or is that the thing that's > > forbidden? > > Yes, exactly. Modifying vm_pgoff is harmless, tons of code does that. > > But changing vma->vm_file, that's something I haven't seen before and > most likely could blow up badly. Ok, I read the shmem helpers again, I think those are the only ones which do the importer mmap -> dma_buf_mmap() forwarding, and hence break stuff all around here. They also remove the vma->vm_pgoff offset, which means unmap_mapping_range wont work anyway. I guess for drivers which use shmem helpers the hard assumption is that a) can't use p2p dma and b) pin everything into system memory. So not a problem. But something to keep in mind. I'll try to do a kerneldoc patch to note this somewhere. btw on that, did the timeline/syncobj documentation patch land by now? Just trying to make sure that doesn't get lost for another few months or so :-/ Cheers, Daniel > > Christian. > > > -Daniel > > > >> Christian. > >> > >>> Of course there's still the problem that many drivers don't forward the > >>> cache coherency calls for begin/end cpu access, so in a bunch of cases > >>> you'll cache cacheline dirt soup. But that's kinda standard procedure for > >>> dma-buf :-P > >>> > >>> But yeah trying to handle the mmap as an importer, bypassing the export: > >>> nope. The one exception is if you have some kind of fancy gart with > >>> cpu-visible pci bar (like at least integrated intel gpus have). But in > >>> that case the mmap very much looks&acts like device access in every way. > >>> > >>> Cheers, Daniel > >>> > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Christian. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> -Chris > > > -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel
