On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 7:09 PM Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 09:28:34PM +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 08:10:26PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 5:43 PM Ville Syrjälä
> > > <ville.syrjala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Apr 17, 2020 at 05:23:10PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 08:04:20PM +0300, Ville Syrjala wrote:
> > > > > > From: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Revert back to comparing fb->format->format instead fb->format for the
> > > > > > page flip ioctl. This check was originally only here to disallow pixel
> > > > > > format changes, but when we changed it to do the pointer comparison
> > > > > > we potentially started to reject some (but definitely not all) modifier
> > > > > > changes as well. In fact the current behaviour depends on whether the
> > > > > > driver overrides the format info for a specific format+modifier combo.
> > > > > > Eg. on i915 this now rejects compression vs. no compression changes but
> > > > > > does not reject any other tiling changes. That's just inconsistent
> > > > > > nonsense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The main reason we have to go back to the old behaviour is to fix page
> > > > > > flipping with Xorg. At some point Xorg got its atomic rights taken away
> > > > > > and since then we can't page flip between compressed and non-compressed
> > > > > > fbs on i915. Currently we get no page flipping for any games pretty much
> > > > > > since Mesa likes to use compressed buffers. Not sure how compositors are
> > > > > > working around this (don't use one myself). I guess they must be doing
> > > > > > something to get non-compressed buffers instead. Either that or
> > > > > > somehow no one noticed the tearing from the blit fallback.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mesa only uses compressed buffers if you enable modifiers, and there's a
> > > > > _loooooooooooot_ more that needs to be fixed in Xorg to enable that for
> > > > > real. Like real atomic support.
> > > >
> > > > Why would you need atomic for modifiers? Xorg doesn't even have
> > > > any sensible framework for atomic and I suspect it never will.
> > >
> > > Frankly if no one cares about atomic in X I don't think we should do
> > > work-arounds for lack of atomic in X.
> > >
> > > > > Without modifiers all you get is X tiling,
> > > > > and that works just fine.
> > > > >
> > > > > Which would also fix this issue here you're papering over.
> > > > >
> > > > > So if this is the entire reason for this, I'm inclined to not do this.
> > > > > Current Xorg is toast wrt modifiers, that's not news.
> > > >
> > > > Works just fine. Also pretty sure modifiers are even enabled by
> > > > default now in modesetting.
> > >
> > > Y/CSS is harder to scan out, you need to verify with TEST_ONLY whether
> > > it works. Otherwise good chances for some oddball black screens on
> > > configurations that worked before. Which is why all non-atomic
> > > compositors reverted modifiers by default again.
> >
> > Y alone is hard to scanout also, and yet we do nothing to reject that.
> > It's just an inconsistent mess.
> >
> > If we really want to keep this check then we should rewrite it
> > to be explicit:
> >
> > if (old_fb->format->format != new_fb->format->format ||
> > is_ccs(old_fb->modifier) != is_ccs(new_fb->modifier))
> > return -EINVAL;
> >
> > Now it's just a random thing that may even stop doing what it's
> > currently doing if anyone touches their .get_format_info()
> > implementation.
> >
> > >
> > > > And as stated the current check doesn't have consistent behaviour
> > > > anyway. You can still flip between different modifiers as long a the
> > > > driver doesn't override .get_format_info() for one of them. The *only*
> > > > case where that happens is CCS on i915. There is no valid reason to
> > > > special case that one.
> > >
> > > The thing is, you need atomic to make CCS work reliably enough for
> > > compositors and distros to dare enabling it by default.
> >
> > If it's not enabled by default then there is no harm in letting people
> > explicitly enable it and get better performance.
> >
> > > CCS flipping
> > > works with atomic. I really see no point in baking this in with as
> > > uapi.
> >
> > It's just going back to the original intention of the check.
> > Heck, the debug message doesn't even match what it's doing now.
> >
> > > Just fix Xorg.
> >
> > Be serious. No one is going to rewrite all the randr code to be atomic.
>
> I fully understand Daniel's concern here, but I also believe this won't be
> done so soon at least. Meanwhile would it be acceptable to have a comment
> with the code /* XXX: Xorg blah... */ or /* FIXME: After Xorg blah.. */
> ?
Here's a few numbers:
- skl shipped in Aug 2015, so about 5 years. Since then would we like
to have modifiers enabled for intel, because it costs us quite a bit
of performance. This isn't new at all.
- the last Xorg release is from May 2018, so two years. Meanwhile even
patches to fix some of the atomic mixups in -modesetting landed, but
they never shipped so not useful.
- I spent a few hours (which really is nothing) reading Xorg code
yesterday, and I concur with Daniel Stone's napkin estimate that this
will take about half to one year to fix properly. It's not happening,
no one is working on that.
Conclusion: No one cares about modifiers on Xorg-modesetting. I don't
see why the kernel should bend over for that.
Once that has changed (I'm not betting on that) and there's clear
effort behind modifiers for Xorg-modesetting I guess we can look into
stop-gap measures, but meanwhile the best imo is to not disturb the
dead.
Cheers, Daniel
> >
> > > -Daniel
> > >
> > > >
> > > > > -Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking back at the original discussion on this change we pretty much
> > > > > > just did it in the name of skipping a few extra pointer dereferences.
> > > > > > However, I've decided not to revert the whole thing in case someone
> > > > > > has since started to depend on these changes. None of the other checks
> > > > > > are relevant for i915 anyways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cc: stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Fixes: dbd4d5761e1f ("drm: Replace 'format->format' comparisons to just 'format' comparisons")
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > drivers/gpu/drm/drm_plane.c | 2 +-
> > > > > > 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_plane.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_plane.c
> > > > > > index d6ad60ab0d38..f2ca5315f23b 100644
> > > > > > --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_plane.c
> > > > > > +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_plane.c
> > > > > > @@ -1153,7 +1153,7 @@ int drm_mode_page_flip_ioctl(struct drm_device *dev,
> > > > > > if (ret)
> > > > > > goto out;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - if (old_fb->format != fb->format) {
> > > > > > + if (old_fb->format->format != fb->format->format) {
> > > > > > DRM_DEBUG_KMS("Page flip is not allowed to change frame buffer format.\n");
> > > > > > ret = -EINVAL;
> > > > > > goto out;
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > 2.24.1
> > > > > >
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> > > > > Daniel Vetter
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> > > >
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> > > > Ville Syrjälä
> > > > Intel
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Daniel Vetter
> > > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation
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