On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:47 PM Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 4:17 PM Greg Kroah-Hartman > <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Fri, Apr 03, 2020 at 03:57:45PM +0200, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > > In drm we've added nice drm_device (the main gpu driver thing, which > > > also represents the userspace interfaces and has everything else > > > dangling off it) init functions using devres, devm_drm_dev_init and > > > soon devm_drm_dev_alloc (this patch series adds that). > > > > > > A slight trouble is that drm_device itself holds a reference on the > > > struct device it's sitting on top (for sysfs links and dmesg debug and > > > lots of other things), so there's a reference loop. For real drivers > > > this is broken at remove/unplug time, where all devres resources are > > > released device_release_driver(), before the final device reference is > > > dropped. So far so good. > > > > > > There's 2 exceptions: > > > - drm/vkms|vgem: Virtual drivers for which we create a fake/virtual > > > platform device to make them look more like normal devices to > > > userspace. These aren't drivers in the driver model sense, we simple > > > create a platform_device and register it. > > > > That's a horrid abuse of platform devices, just use a "virtual" device > > please, create/remove it when you need it, and all should be fine. > > > > > - drm/i915/selftests, where we create minimal mock devices, and again > > > the selftests aren't proper drivers in the driver model sense. > > > > Again, virtual devices are best to use for this. > > Hm yeah, I guess we should fix that. i915 selftests do use raw struct > device though, and it's not really the problem. > > > > For these two cases the reference loop isn't broken, because devres is > > > only cleaned up when the last device reference is dropped. But that's > > > not happening, because the drm_device holds that last struct device > > > reference. > > > > > > Thus far this wasn't a problem since the above cases simply > > > hand-rolled their cleanup code. But I want to convert all drivers over > > > to the devm_ versions, hence it would be really nice if these > > > virtual/fake/mock uses-cases could also be managed with devres > > > cleanup. > > > > > > I see three possible approaches: > > > > > > - Clean up devres from device_del (or platform_device_unregister) even > > > when no driver is bound. This seems like the simplest solution, but > > > also the one with the widest impact, and what this patch implements. > > > We might want to include more of the cleanup than just > > > devres_release_all, but this is all I need to get my use case going. > > > > After device_del, you should never be using that structure again anyway. > > So why is there any "resource leak"? You can't recycle the structure, > > and you can't assign it to anything else, so eventually you have to do > > a final put on the thing, which will free up the resources. > > I guess I should have spent more time explaining this. There's two > references involved: > > - drm_device->dev points at the underlying struct device. The > drm_device holds a reference until it's fully cleaned up, so that we > can do nice stuff like use dev_ versions of printk functions, and you > always know that there's not going to be a use-after free. > > - now the other dependency is that as long as the device exists (not > just in memory, but in the device model, i.e. between device_add() and > device_del()) the drm_device should exist. So what we do in the > bus-specific remove/disconnect callback is that we call > drm_dev_unregister(). This drops the drm_device refcount that the drm > chardev was holding, to make sure that an open() on the chardev can > actually get at the memory without going boom. Then after the > drm_dev_unregister, again in the remove/disconnect callback of th > driver, there's a drm_dev_put(). Which might or might not be the final > drm_dev_put(), since if there's currently some open fd we keep the > refcount elevated, to avoid oopses and fun stuff like that. And > drm_device pointers get shared very widely, thanks to fun stuff like > dma_buf buffer sharing and dma_fence hw syncpt sharing across > processes and drivers. > > Once the final drm_dev_put() is called we also end up calling > put_device() and everything is happy. > > So far so good. > > Now the problem is that refcount is hard, and most drm drivers get it > wrong in some fashion or another, so I'm trying to solve all this with > more magic. > > Since all drivers need to have a drm_dev_put() at the end of their > driver's remove/disconnect callback we've added a devm_drm_dev_init > function which registers a devres action to do that drm_dev_put() at > device_del time (which might or might not be the final drm_dev_put()). > Nothing has changed thus far. > > Now this works really well because when you have a real driver model > driver attached, then device_del ends up calling devres_release_all(), > which ends up triggering the multi-stage cleanup of drm_devices. But > if you do _not_ have a real driver attached, then device_del does > nothing wrt devres cleanup. Instead this is delayed until the final > put_device(). > > Unfortunately that final put_device() will never happen, because > drm_device is still holding a reference to the struct device. And the > final drm_dev_put of that drm_device will never happen, because that > drm_dev_put call is in a devres actions, which wont ever get called. > > This is the only case where this reference loop happens and doesn't > get broken. By calling devres_release_all at device_del time, > irrespective of whether a driver is bound or not, we make both cases > work the same. And at both cases the devres cleanup happens device_del > time, and not when the final put_device is called. > > Aside: The final put_device has another devres_release_all() call, > which given your explanation sounds very wrong - at that point the > physical device is long gone, and cleaning up devres actions at that > point is way too late. I think a good cleanup patch on top of this > would be to remove that call, and replace it with an assert that no > one managed to sneak in a devres_add_action between device_del and the > final put_device(). I've done a bit more digging, and found this commit: commit a525a3ddeaca69f405d98442ab3c0746e53168dc Author: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@xxxxxxxxx> Date: Wed Jul 25 01:42:29 2012 +0800 driver core: free devres in device_release Before this devres_release_all was called at device_del() time, unconditionally whether a driver was bound or not. Which seems to have been the intention at least back then. So in a way my patch simply restores that behaviour for the case where no driver has been bound to a device structure, but we still have devres resources hanging off it. -Daniel > > > And then all should be fine, right? But, by putting the freeing here, > > you can still have a "live" device that thinks it has resources availble > > that it can access, but yet they are now gone. Yeah, it's probably not > > ever going to really happen, but the lifecycles of dynamic devices are > > tough to "prove" at times, and I worry that freeing things this early is > > going to cause odd disconnect issues. > > Not exactly sure what you mean here, but trying to fix all the driver > bugs we have in drm is why I'm doing this. We have a massive amount of > gaps still, but we're slowly closing them all off with stuff like > drm_dev_enter/exit, to make sure there's no races possible between > driver hotunplug and concurrent access by userspace. > > The additional trouble is that users are really pissed when we crash > their compositor just because they unplugged an usb display dongle or > an usb projector thing. So the failure mode we're aiming for in drm > for hotunplug is to be very graceful to userspace - experience says > that userspace is even less likely to handle this correctly than the > kernel. That's why we're refcounting drm_device and everything hanging > off it, so that it sticks around and we can pretend to userspace that > it's all still there (but disconnected from hw and the driver). Until > userspace has gone around and managed to process the udev events and > closed all open fds. > > Cheers, Daniel > -- > Daniel Vetter > Software Engineer, Intel Corporation > +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation +41 (0) 79 365 57 48 - http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel