On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 22:48:05 +0200
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Boris,
>
> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 09:42:44PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 22:32:11 +0200 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 09:22:18PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > >> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 21:59:26 +0200 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 08:55:59PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > >>>> On Mon, 9 Mar 2020 21:23:06 +0200 Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >>>>> On Mon, Mar 09, 2020 at 11:50:59AM +0100, Philipp Zabel wrote:
> > >>>>>> On Thu, 2019-11-14 at 14:17 +0100, Marek Vasut wrote:
> > >>>>>>> The bus_flags and bus_format handling logic does not seem to cover
> > >>>>>>> all potential usecases. Specifically, this seems to fail with an
> > >>>>>>> "edt,etm0700g0edh6" display attached to an 24bit display interface,
> > >>>>>>> with interface-pix-fmt = "rgb24" set in DT.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> interface-pix-fmt is a legacy property that was never intended to be
> > >>>>>> used as an override for the panel bus format. The bus flags were
> > >>>>>> supposed to be set from the display-timings node, back when there was no
> > >>>>>> of-graph connected panel at all.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> That being said, there isn't really a proper alternative that allows to
> > >>>>>> override the bus format requested by the panel driver in the device tree
> > >>>>>> to account for weird wiring. We could reuse the bus-width endpoint
> > >>>>>> property documented in [1], but that wouldn't completely specify how the
> > >>>>>> RGB components are to be mapped onto the parallel bus.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> [1] Documentation/devicetree/bindings/media/video-interfaces.txt
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Things are funny sometimes, I've run into the exact same problem with a
> > >>>>> different display controller today.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Shouldn't we use the data-shift property from [1] to specify this ?
> > >>>>> Combined with Boris' bus format negotiation for bridges, I think we
> > >>>>> would have all the components in place to solve this problem properly.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I wonder if we shouldn't take more complex pin mappings into account
> > >>>> now and go directly for a data-mapping property describing those
> > >>>> mappings using a string. This way we'd have a single property that
> > >>>> would work for both fully parallel buses (DPI/RGB) and serial (or
> > >>>> partially parallel) ones (LVDS).
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm all for standardization, but I'm not sure data-mapping is the right
> > >>> property, at least with its current definition. It's really meant to
> > >>> describe how individual bits are mapped to the LVDS time slots. I'm fine
> > >>> extending it, but we need to define it clearly. How would you envision
> > >>> it being used in this case ?
> > >>
> > >> Well, clearly the data-width/data-shift approach does not solve all
> > >> problems: what do you do if the source R pins are connected to the sink
> > >> B pins? Well, the first answer would probably be 'have a serious
> > >> discussion with the HW designer responsible for this insanity' :-), but
> > >> once you've passed this 'WTF' stage, you'll have to find a way to tell
> > >> the source component it should use RGBxyx while the sink should use
> > >> BGRxyx (or vice-versa). This is something you can't extract that from
> > >> those width/shift props though. My suggestion would be to have one
> > >> string per MEDIA_BUS_FMT definition, so we can force things at the DT
> > >> level if we really have to. That's basically what the interface-pix-fmt
> > >> property was doing, except we would standardize the prop and values and
> > >> probably provide helpers so bridge elements don't have to parse this
> > >> prop manually.
> > >
> > > I don't think that would work in the general case though. We may want to
> > > use different formats and pick one of them at runtime based on external
> > > information (for instance when the sink can accept both RGB and YUV),
> > > hardcoding formats in DT isn't a good option. We instead need to add
> > > information to DT to specify how lines are connected, and deduce formats
> > > based on that.
> >
> > If we start describing the role of each pin, we're not that far from a
> > pinmux definition, the only difference being that we want pin configs
> > to match between the source and sink, where actual pinmux configs are
> > only controlled by one element (the HW block requesting exclusive
> > access to those pins).
>
> The trick here will be to find an appropriate middle-ground. I don't
> think we need to describe the role of each pin, but only to take into
> account the parallel bus routing configurations that are likely to
> happen in practice. Connecting MSBs to LSBs when decreasing the bus
> width (or the other way around when increasing it) is a common issue.
> Flipping R and B should be less common, but I suppose it can happen in
> practice if the display controller supports both RGB and BGR formats (it
> will just need to adjust the format internally if there's no dedicated
> R<->B flipping hardware option). What else do we have ?
That's all I can think of, at least for DPI/RGB buses. So your
recommendation would be to keep data-width/data-shift props and
complement them with dpi-swap-red-blue-signals, right? Not entirely sure
data-width is enough to describe all kind of bus-width
increase/shrinking (don't we have RGB combinations taking the same
number of signals but with different layouts)?
Alternatively we could describe the 'out-src-format <-> in-sink-format'
mappings using pair of strings:
port {
...
endpoint {
bus-formats = <out-src-format1>,
<in-sink-format1>,
<out-src-format2>,
<in-sink-format2>,
...;
};
};
but I'm almost sure you won't like this idea (actually, I don't like it
either :-)).
Anyway, I don't have much time to spend on this, so I'll probably
respin the lvds-codec patches, extending it to support bus-width on the
input side of an encoder element.
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