On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 09:28:57PM -0700, Tejun Heo wrote: > Hello, > > I just glanced through the interface and don't have enough context to > give any kind of detailed review yet. I'll try to read up and > understand more and would greatly appreciate if you can give me some > pointers to read up on the resources being controlled and how the > actual use cases would look like. That said, I have some basic > concerns. > > * TTM vs. GEM distinction seems to be internal implementation detail > rather than anything relating to underlying physical resources. > Provided that's the case, I'm afraid these internal constructs being > used as primary resource control objects likely isn't the right > approach. Whether a given driver uses one or the other internal > abstraction layer shouldn't determine how resources are represented > at the userland interface layer. Yeah there's another RFC series from Brian Welty to abstract this away as a memory region concept for gpus. > * While breaking up and applying control to different types of > internal objects may seem attractive to folks who work day in and > day out with the subsystem, they aren't all that useful to users and > the siloed controls are likely to make the whole mechanism a lot > less useful. We had the same problem with cgroup1 memcg - putting > control of different uses of memory under separate knobs. It made > the whole thing pretty useless. e.g. if you constrain all knobs > tight enough to control the overall usage, overall utilization > suffers, but if you don't, you really don't have control over actual > usage. For memcg, what has to be allocated and controlled is > physical memory, no matter how they're used. It's not like you can > go buy more "socket" memory. At least from the looks of it, I'm > afraid gpu controller is repeating the same mistakes. We do have quite a pile of different memories and ranges, so I don't thinkt we're doing the same mistake here. But it is maybe a bit too complicated, and exposes stuff that most users really don't care about. -Daniel -- Daniel Vetter Software Engineer, Intel Corporation http://blog.ffwll.ch _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel