On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:13 PM Alex Deucher <alexdeucher@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:04 AM Karol Herbst <kherbst@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 3:56 PM <Mario.Limonciello@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: linux-acpi-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <linux-acpi-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On > > > > Behalf Of Dave Airlie > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 5:48 PM > > > > To: Karol Herbst > > > > Cc: LKML; Linux ACPI; dri-devel; nouveau; Rafael J . Wysocki; Alex Hung; Ben > > > > Skeggs; Dave Airlie > > > > Subject: Re: [Nouveau] [PATCH 1/7] Revert "ACPI / OSI: Add OEM _OSI string to > > > > enable dGPU direct output" > > > > > > > > On Thu, 15 Aug 2019 at 07:31, Karol Herbst <kherbst@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > This reverts commit 28586a51eea666d5531bcaef2f68e4abbd87242c. > > > > > > > > > > The original commit message didn't even make sense. AMD _does_ support it and > > > > > it works with Nouveau as well. > > > > > > > > > > Also what was the issue being solved here? No references to any bugs and not > > > > > even explaining any issue at all isn't the way we do things. > > > > > > > > > > And even if it means a muxed design, then the fix is to make it work inside the > > > > > driver, not adding some hacky workaround through ACPI tricks. > > > > > > > > > > And what out of tree drivers do or do not support we don't care one bit anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the reverts should be merged via Rafael's tree as the original > > > > patches went in via there, and we should get them in asap. > > > > > > > > Acked-by: Dave Airlie <airlied@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Dave. > > > > > > There are definitely going to be regressions on machines in the field with the > > > in tree drivers by reverting this. I think we should have an answer for all of those > > > before this revert is accepted. > > > > > > Regarding systems with Intel+NVIDIA, we'll have to work with partners to collect > > > some information on the impact of reverting this. > > > > > > When this is used on a system with Intel+AMD the ASL configures AMD GPU to use > > > "Hybrid Graphics" when on Windows and "Power Express" and "Switchable Graphics" > > > when on Linux. > > > > and what's exactly the difference between those? And what's the actual > > issue here? > > Hybrid Graphics is the new "standard" way of handling these laptops. > It uses the standard _PR3 APCI method to handle dGPU power. Support > for this was added to Linux relatively later compared to when the > laptops were launched. "Power Express" used the other AMD specific > ATPX ACPI method to handle dGPU power. The driver supports both so > either method will work. > > Alex > thanks for clarifying. But that still means that we won't need such workarounds for AMD users, right? amdgpu handles hybrid graphics just fine, right? > > > > We already have the PRIME offloading in place and if that's not > > enough, we should work on extending it, not adding some ACPI based > > workarounds, because that's exactly how that looks like. > > > > Also, was this discussed with anybody involved in the drm subsystem? > > > > > > > > I feel we need a knob and/or DMI detection to affect the changes that the ASL > > > normally performs. > > > > Why do we have to do that on a firmware level at all? > > _______________________________________________ > > dri-devel mailing list > > dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel _______________________________________________ dri-devel mailing list dri-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/dri-devel