Re: [PATCH 1/3] [RFC]drm: add syncobj timeline support v4

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On 2018年09月14日 11:14, zhoucm1 wrote:


On 2018年09月13日 18:22, Christian König wrote:
Am 13.09.2018 um 11:35 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing):

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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] [RFC]drm: add syncobj timeline support v4

Am 13.09.2018 um 11:11 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing):
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] [RFC]drm: add syncobj timeline support v4

Am 13.09.2018 um 09:43 schrieb Zhou, David(ChunMing):
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] [RFC]drm: add syncobj timeline support v4

Am 13.09.2018 um 04:15 schrieb zhoucm1:
On 2018年09月12日 19:05, Christian König wrote:
[SNIP]
+static void drm_syncobj_find_signal_pt_for_wait_pt(struct
drm_syncobj *syncobj,
+                           struct drm_syncobj_wait_pt
+*wait_pt) {
That whole approach still looks horrible complicated to me.
It's already very close to what you said before.

Especially the separation of signal and wait pt is completely
unnecessary as far as I can see.
When a wait pt is requested we just need to search for the
signal point which it will trigger.
Yeah, I tried this, but when I implement cpu wait ioctl on
specific point, we need a advanced wait pt fence, otherwise, we
could still need old syncobj cb.
Why? I mean you just need to call drm_syncobj_find_fence() and
when
that one returns NULL you use wait_event_*() to wait for a signal
point >= your wait point to appear and try again.
e.g. when there are 3 syncobjs(A,B,C) to wait, all syncobjABC have
no fence yet, as you said, during drm_syncobj_find_fence(A) is
working on wait_event, syncobjB and syncobjC could already be
signaled, then we don't know which one is first signaled, which is
need when wait ioctl returns.
I don't really see a problem with that. When you wait for the first
one you need to wait for A,B,C at the same time anyway.

So what you do is to register a fence callback on the fences you
already have and for the syncobj which doesn't yet have a fence you
make sure that they wake up your thread when they get one.

So essentially exactly what drm_syncobj_fence_get_or_add_callback()
already does today.
So do you mean we need still use old syncobj CB for that?
Yes, as far as I can see it should work.

    Advanced wait pt is bad?
Well it isn't bad, I just don't see any advantage in it.
The advantage is to replace old syncobj cb.

The existing mechanism
should already be able to handle that.
I thought more a bit, we don't that mechanism at all, if use advanced wait
pt, we can easily use fence array to achieve it for wait ioctl, we should use kernel existing feature as much as possible, not invent another, shouldn't we?
I remember  you said  it before.

Yeah, but the syncobj cb is an existing feature.
This is obviously a workaround when doing for wait ioctl, Do you see it used in other place?

And I absolutely don't see a
need to modify that and replace it with something far more complex.
The wait ioctl is simplified much more by fence array, not complex, and we just need  to allocate a wait pt.  If keeping old syncobj cb workaround, all wait pt logic still is there, just save allocation and wait pt handling, in fact, which part isn't complex at all. But compare with ugly syncobj cb, which is simpler.

I strongly disagree on that. You just need to extend the syncobj cb with the sequence number and you are done.

We could clean that up in the long term by adding some wait_multi event macro, but for now just adding the sequence number should do the trick.

Quote from Daniel Vetter comment when v1, "

Specifically for this stuff here having unified future fence semantics
will allow drivers to do clever stuff with them.

"
I think the advanced wait pt is a similar concept as 'future fence' what Daniel Vetter said before, which obviously a right direction.


Anyway, I will change the patch as you like if no other comment, so that the patch can pass soon.
When I try to remove wait pt future fence, I encounter another problem, drm_syncobj_find_fence cannot get a fence if signal pt already is collected as garbage, then CS will report error, any idea for that? I still think the future fence is right thing, Could you give futher thought on it again? Otherwise, we could need various workarounds.

Thanks,
David Zhou

Thanks,
David Zhou

Regards,
Christian.


Thanks,
David Zhou
Regards,
Christian.

Thanks,
David Zhou
Christian.

Thanks,
David Zhou
Regards,
Christian.

Back to my implementation, it already fixes all your concerns
before, and can be able to easily used in wait_ioctl. When you
feel that is complicated, I guess that is because we merged all
logic to that and much clean up in one patch. In fact, it already
is very simple, timeline_init/fini, create signal/wait_pt, find
signal_pt for wait_pt, garbage collection, just them.

Thanks,
David Zhou
Regards,
Christian.
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